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Anyone else have a sneaky suspicion that the PM will rush through easing of some of the lockdown rules ahead of schedule to deflect attention away?
 
Oxt1 said:
Anyone else have a sneaky suspicion that the PM will rush through easing of some of the lockdown rules ahead of schedule to deflect attention away?
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I'm expecting to see plenty of squirrels this week.
 
HKYellow said:
It could be worse.....................................................................






We could be run by a labour government!! I shudder to think what it would be like.







So a better of 2 evils I suppose.
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What specifically do you think would be worse than having the highest death toll from Covid in Europe, with the chief advisor mocking the policy he was responsible for implementing ?

That number whilst horrifyingly high is only as low as it is because of the fantastic commitment to lockdown by the British people Of the big cost emotionally they’ve missed out on going to funerals connecting with family giving up holidays.

There’s been Some amazing stories by posters on here- I found the lengths @Scotchegg has to go too to keep his family safe very moving even though there is very little we agree on (on this topic anyway)

And now Cummings and Johnson have torn that to shreds. I can’t see how that might be worse under labour

We might have free broadband, I suppose.
 
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[frOm the Financial Times

Sir David Spiegelhalter, an influential British statistician, has revised down his estimates of the proportion of people dying from Covid-19 who would have died in the coming year anyway, suggesting that figure is probably somewhere between 5 and 15 per cent.

This flies in the face of one of the key argumentsof the “lockdown sceptics”: that the virus is mainly killing off those that were on their way out anyway.

Until now, many people on both sides of the debate have agreed with this assessment (though they have disagreed on what the appropriate response should therefore be). Even Imperial’s Neil Ferguson himself, who has been dubbed“Professor Lockdown” by the tabloids, told usback in early April that: “from our crude analysis, it’s plausible that of the order of two-thirds of the people that have died so far might have died in this year anyhow” (a comment that was jumped on by many sceptics on Twitter).
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YellowTaxi said:
What specifically do you think would be worse than having the highest death toll from Covid in Europe, with the chief advisor mocking the policy he was responsible for implementing ?

That number whilst horrifyingly high is only as low as it is because of the fantastic commitment to lockdown by the British people Of the big cost emotionally they’ve missed out on going to funerals connecting with family giving up holidays.

There’s been Some amazing stories by posters on here- I found the lengths @Scotchegg has to go too to keep his family safe very moving even though there is very little we agree on (on this topic anyway)

And now Cummings and Johnson have torn that to shreds. I can’t see how that might be worse under labour

We might have free broadband, I suppose.
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Actually the politics side was a wind up as can see quite a few posters on here are quite passionate about their left/right tendancies.

I feel the numbers are horrendous mainly down to the population and their characteristics.

I feel there would have been as much, if not uproar if very early in Feb/early March if the UK government had instigated a full lockdown, subject all incoming people to a 14 day quarantine period at a "camp" or somewhere. If the Police and Army had been deployed with checkpoints everywhere, only 1 person per household physically allowed out once a week to buy groceries, thats all. I dont the UK and people could have done that (and the papers I am sure would have had a field day)
 
HKYellow said:
Actually the politics side was a wind up as can see quite a few posters on here are quite passionate about their left/right tendancies.

I feel the numbers are horrendous mainly down to the population and their characteristics.

I feel there would have been as much, if not uproar if very early in Feb/early March if the UK government had instigated a full lockdown, subject all incoming people to a 14 day quarantine period at a "camp" or somewhere. If the Police and Army had been deployed with checkpoints everywhere, only 1 person per household physically allowed out once a week to buy groceries, thats all. I dont the UK and people could have done that (and the papers I am sure would have had a field day)
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Keeping it on the political wind up theme...I would guess the great unwashed would indeed stomach it if Bojo and Cummings convinced their chums in the right wing press to portray it as the most British and patriotic thing you could do to save yourselves and our glorious nation.

I don't know....something like short term pain for you all now followed by jam tomorrow when we steal an economic march on Johnny Foreigner who are still in disarray owing to their lack of ability to be decisive and knuckle down to the task at hand...[emoji15]
 
But you're right...had it been a Labour govt, then the very same press would more than likely portray the exact same measures as an outrageous assault on our civil liberties by the looney left.
 
MarkG said:
Indeed. I am surprised just how angry people are. Hence why I asked how “well behaved” posters on here are.

Perhaps I was never going to get somebody owning up to a blatant breaking the rules. But I was expecting a few visits to family dressed up as “essentiall”
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Well I'm shielding so not much I can do. Thankfully my brother does visit but that is to deliver food etc.
 
Mrs Cummings writes for The Spectator. At the time the Cummings were travelling to Durham she wrote her usual diary piece for the publication, describing her daily activity. It read as if they were at their house in London. No reference to travelling anywhere. No reference to them using 'common sense' in their childcare. They knew what they were doing. They knew most would find it unacceptable and must have predicted the understandable backlash. Deceit and arrogance because they felt they could do what they like because of who they were.
 
HKYellow said:
I feel there would have been as much, if not uproar if very early in Feb/early March if the UK government had instigated a full lockdown, subject all incoming people to a 14 day quarantine period at a "camp" or somewhere. If the Police and Army had been deployed with checkpoints everywhere, only 1 person per household physically allowed out once a week to buy groceries, thats all. I dont the UK and people could have done that (and the papers I am sure would have had a field day)
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Not sure how long you've been away chap? But the vast majority of Albion are making sacrifices in their day-to-day lives to meet the demands imposed in typical stoic manner, balancing a stiff upper lip with our legendary sense of humour.

Opinion polls and Police reports show no evidence of widespread unrest - so I don't think you can logically say we couldn't of handled more, at an earlier stage? Sadly, now that our "leaders" have so publicly taken the P**s out of the nation, the whole thing could of course crumble.
 
MarkG said:
Indeed. I am surprised just how angry people are. Hence why I asked how “well behaved” posters on here are.

Perhaps I was never going to get somebody owning up to a blatant breaking the rules. But I was expecting a few visits to family dressed up as “essentiall”
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Bit of a difference between a poster on here breaking the rules and Cummings doing it though isn’t there?
 
Navegante said:
Not sure how long you've been away chap? But the vast majority of Albion are making sacrifices in their day-to-day lives to meet the demands imposed in typical stoic manner, balancing a stiff upper lip with our legendary sense of humour.

Opinion polls and Police reports show no evidence of widespread unrest - so I don't think you can logically say we couldn't of handled more, at an earlier stage? Sadly, now that our "leaders" have so publicly taken the P**s out of the nation, the whole thing could of course crumble.
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it can't crumble if the same "sensible" people continue to do exactly as they have done thus far...

The Morons would still continue doing as they pleased regardless of actions from Members within Government.

What is the point of any of us being angry, it wont change anything as what has been done has been done.
 
talking of clutching at anything

A man who doesn't even know how many children he has and left his wife for his mistress when his wife was suffering from cancer claims that the Advisor who drove the length of the country in breach of his own guidelines "followed the instincts of every father and every parent"

meanwhile thousands of parents have gone to work to save the lives of others. Some of slept in tents in care home gardens to protect their patients. Others have been unable to att3nd their parents or their children's funerals. These people are foul.
 
HKYellow said:
It could be worse.....................................................................






We could be run by a labour government!! I shudder to think what it would be like.







So a better of 2 evils I suppose.
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That is a pretty pathetic post. I guess you’re been away too long. Not sure why you want to politicise it like that
 
One of the road schemes mentioned by Shapps on Saturday (somewhat lost in the Cummings situation) was dialling the A66; runs just south of Barnard Castle. Sure to open up opportunities for those who fancy a visit.
 
holdsteady said:
Bit of a difference between a poster on here breaking the rules and Cummings doing it though isn’t there?
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Well not really the rules applied to everyone, as i said before calling for losing their job is fine but would then have to apply to Ebay man Fish and chip man Party in the Park Attendees Footballers....We didn't go for the hard Borders or Army and Police at checkpoints throughout the Nation...We adopted the Libertarion approach..The message was if caught you'll get a fine....99.99% of people have continued doing the right thing and as with anyone who adopts a different attitude to rules/Laws etc the punishment fits the crime and applies as a one fit all...imho
 
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