Transfer News Transfer targets summer 2019

[Shosho]

We clearly have budget...500k for a CB, 200k for Cadden, offered (300k?) For Browne.

Would love to take some players out of league 2

 

[Mintygreen]

Or maybe it’s a good soundbite to say we matched the offer!
If we are able to match the wages offer by boro then the lack of players coming in is a mystery to me !

 

[holdsteady]

These ‘we’re aiming too high’ comments are weird. It’s not as if we were throwing our hat in the ring at Atletico when we heard Griezzman was available! Ched Evans was in a team that finished literally one point and one place above us last season, so is very much our level, and Marcus Browne by all accounts was on the cusp of being a done deal. I’m as frustrated as the next guy with how this window has gone, and I do suspect that there must be something up behind the scenes (as RyanioBirdio’s excellent posts have suggested). But I can’t help that think that posters claiming that they would be happy with us wasting wages on weaker players so long as we got bodies in the building are being a bit disingenuous.

No one is claiming we should sign s**t players instead though are they? Plenty of decent free agent signings about, we have picked some up in the past and look to have with the two full time signings we have made.

Players who nearly sign for you are not going to get any sort of job done are they? So to claim that that is better than going for someone who will come in and do a job and contribute is strange.

 

[Paul Cannell]

Even if nothing changes before Sunderland we are likely to go into that game with

Eastwood
Cadden Dickie Mous Ruffels
Gorrin Brannagan
Whyte Henry Fosu
Mackie

Subs

Stevens Long Jones Hall Sykes Hanson Napa

Is that really as weak as some are suggesting? Do people really think that we won't add other players even if after the season starts?

It doesn't matter what angle you cast the Positive Fairy Magic Dust that team has 1 CB who's a time bomb in defence and an old bloke who can run for an hour and head the ball once a week up front.

It would be asking to lose. Not to mention that there's no depth whatsoever.

Disclaimers for the dim bulbs who will scream at this:

Mousinho is a decent defensive midfielder but has proven hopeless at CB against committed players. He seems a nice guy, give him a break.

Without a player who can hold the ball up we'll spend huge parts of matches pinned in our own half with no possession, soaking up pressure if we're lucky

I'll be behind the team, as always, on the day every day.

 

[ZeroTheHero]

There is absolutely no problem is going after players like Browne, but it's hardly surprising that (even if we matched or exceeded what M'boro offered) he'd prefer to play in the Championship. There's a much better chance for him to catch the eye of Prem clubs if he performs well there. Perform well with us and it's more likely that it's the Champ clubs that would come in for him.
So no problem going for him as long as there's a less ambitious target (or four) also on the radar.

 

[Kamal]

For the posters asking for us to give up on top targets and just fill the positions with average players:

Who would you suggest we sign to fill the squad?

Jon Obika, Dwight Tiendalli, Ivo Pekalski.

 

[Mad Dog]

For the posters asking for us to give up on top targets and just fill the positions with average players:

Who would you suggest we sign to fill the squad?

Hylton, McAleny, and Jake Wright.

Some people with disagree, and say it lacks ambition, and is clinging to past memories etc, and whilst I agree these can't be the calibre of player that we aspire to moving forward, given our current predicament, and given the fact that there's only one week until the season starts, and we're clearly struggling to fill these key positions, which even KR is admitting to now, and the fact that we could genuinely succeed in getting these players, it wouldn't be a bad idea.

These players could easily go down to a top league 2 club, and be key first team players, on half decent wages, but they could still do a very good job for any league one side, and could be key squad players, on much better wages, which surely would be an attractive option to them at this stage in their careers.

Getting these three in, could really fill out the squad with genuine, experienced senior quality, and then we'd have the rest of the loan window, to try to find a higher calibre CB and ST on season long loans.

Never gonna happen though is it, so don't know why I'm bothering!

 

[WuTang]

I know a couple of people who work in and around the club. Sometimes I hear things directly, like when the players were allegedly not paid and I quickly had it confirmed that there really wasn't a problem. Sometimes I hear things less directly, like the deal with Cadden had been agreed weeks ago but the process was very complex. And sometimes I hear things that are no more than a general overview, like the club working really hard to bring players of a very high standard in.

But when these views are posted, most demand evidence, or say that it is irrelevant until the player actually signs. Of course we all want to see people through the door, and deals that look on the cards can fall away, but does anyone truly believe that the club are not working night and day to put this right?

Marcus Browne was here on Tuesday to look at a deal. West Ham were fully aware and a fee had been agreed. However, if as it looks likely, a Championship club comes in offering more than sadly we have to accept defeat. But not to chase these players in the first place would be ridiculous.

I know that we have tabled a number of bids which are way above what many would expect. I know that these show that money is available, and that if they come off then it will show our real intent for this season. I know that Robinson and the board are working really hard, and that there are no issues that are fundamentally wrong with our recruitment process as some suggest.

But all of that aside, I'm still as frustrated as everyone that we haven't yet put all of this together to bring these players in. However, with everything I know from behind the scenes I am a little more hopefully than most that this will all come together and will judge the end product rather than dismissing everything on a daily basis.

You crack on in your concerned train, I'm sure it might be standing room only. But I'm sticking to the positive bus, even if it gets a little lonely at times, it's still a far better ride!

I can't help but think the club know your such a frequent, enthusiastic poster on this forum they peddle stuff to you knowing exactly where it's going to end up. This post alone could be Tigers programme notes word for word!

 

[greatunclekip]

Or maybe it’s a good soundbite to say we matched the offer!
If we are able to match the wages offer by boro then the lack of players coming in is a mystery to me !

Easy to say we matched the offer and did everything we could after weve been blown out yet again.

 

[radicalox]

Easy to say we matched the offer and did everything we could after weve been blown out yet again.

So you are saying Robinson's comments are outright lies?

 

[Marked Ox]

Or maybe it’s a good soundbite to say we matched the offer!
If we are able to match the wages offer by boro then the lack of players coming in is a mystery to me !

We must have offered an acceptable bid to West Ham and came to an agreement with Motherwell so there must be money available. Highly unlikely to match Middlesbrough for wages though especially over 4 years.

 

[Marked Ox]

Easy to say we matched the offer and did everything we could after weve been blown out yet again.

You're a parody account now.

 

[Shaun Rice]

It enhances nothing.
The Board seem to have backed KR to pay for Fosu, put in a number of bids for players ( most clubs in L1 wont pay money on Transfer fees like we seem to)
It seems clear that we are going for good players who have options. As somebody said yesterday we could probably easily have got players in now who are deemed by the club to be of a lower quality than those we are after.
The players we will sign will presumably be for 2 to 3 years. So waiting a few extra weeks for the right players appears to be the current strategy.
Whether this is successful or not will depend on the quality of player we end up signing.

We should be more concerned with who than when, absolutely!
The problem for me is we’re aiming so high chances are we’ll miss out to clubs in a far better position than us. As has happened recently. While all the time good sold league one players are being snapped up. What then?

 

[greatunclekip]

So you are saying Robinson's comments are outright lies?

I dont believe much from our leadership any more unfortunately as they have somewhat of a track record for talking B*****s. Did we really match a championship club for wages? Really?

The proof will be in the pudding.

 

[Big Ronaldo]

Stupid question (I’m good at them)?
Who is out there cheapish who is still available for us to buy?

 

[WuTang]

I'd have been more comfortable if we'd have signed 2, lesser quality backup options in centre back and striker, whilst we continue to hunt for our top targets which could go down to deadline day.

 

[battman]

I'd have been more comfortable if we'd have signed 2, lesser quality backup options in centre back and striker, whilst we continue to hunt for our top targets which could go down to deadline day.

Which makes the non-signing of Jon Guthrie a little bit mystifying.

 

[Gary Baldi]

If Guthrie isn't an improvement on Mous or Jones, then he's a waste of budget for me.

 

[beyondthefourth]

That’s not really people on here’s job is it? To have an encyclopaedic knowledge of lower league professional footballers, that’s the job of managers, scouts etc.

You all seem to know Guthrie and Great weren't good enough. That the top striker in the Scottish lower leagues would be a risky signing.

 

[WuTang]

Which makes the non-signing of Jon Guthrie a little bit mystifying.

I'm not sure he'd have been an improvement on Mousinho. I didn't want to sign him, but the longer the clock ticks it would have been nice to have a backup like him there after all!