Manager/Coach KREXIT: The 'Robbo Out' thread.

[Mad Dog]

This recent run of form? It has really been nothing special whatsoever. Beating a god-awful Charlton team at home doesn't change that.

Until a dozen games ago, we were in free fall, and in big trouble, and fair enough we're not exactly winning many games, but we're becoming difficult to beat at least, and credit has to be given for that

 

[Scotchegg]

Getting away from the pathetic name calling from some of our posters, I can understand the frustration that leads to people posting on here following a defeat. Everyone wants successful, entertaining football and there hasn't been a lot of that this season. So whilst I don't always agree with what some post, I at least respect the sensible posters that call for a change.

But I can't get how a few hours after the game we have got posters rushing in to slag off the manager and anyone who has a differing view to themselves.

Let's not get carried away, but we've just seen a win with a very good first half performance and a battling second half to get a much needed 3 points. There was a 30 minute spell when Josh Murphy was unplayable, and there still may be a chance for him to prove that his transfer was a good one after all. Lewis Bate has been getting better and better and is now a crucial member of our midfield. Djavan Anderson was also very good for the first hour (and a bit of a liability after!) and, whilst still developing, Ed McGinty had his best game for us with a save that kept us in the game at 2-1. Yanic Wildschut is showing glimpses of what he's capable of, although still some way from being fully fit, and Billy Bodin is this years Mide Shodipo in that he doesn't always look great but is somehow scoring a decent number of goals.

No chickens being counted just yet, but maybe we are beginning to see some of our key signings making an impact which can only be good for this club. Added to that the opportunity to bring in a couple of additional players, and the development of GO'D and Tyler and we have some grass shoots of optimism for the future. It's unlikely but still possible that we could get something from this season, and every reason to look to build ahead of next season.

I don't expect everyone to fall in love with Karl again or there to be a groundswell of applications for Happy Clappers but some of the vitriol towards all things Oxford just seems a bit bizarre, especially when looking back at some really horrific periods in our not too distant past.

Hopefully 2023 will be a better year for all of us both on and off the pitch and we can find some unite in achieving everything that we want.

 

[Wandering Yellow]

Sorry, this REALLY annoys me. Why discredit the win? I know why, but we won’t go there.

We were fantastic yesterday. They were poor on the day, yes, or in other words you could say they weren’t as good as us… We don’t choose our opponents or how they play, Karl’s job is just to beat them. He’s done that this time. URGH.

Does it change our current situation? Yes, by 3 points!! Is it enough to change the view of the masses who want him gone, no! Doesn’t mean you can’t pat him on the back for a good performance.

Nope, sorry, not accepting this.

I DID give Robinson credit for the win higher up in the thread. What I took issue with is the idea we are in particularly good form.



We are ninth in the form table FFS. It's hardly ground breaking. We beat what was put in front of us yesterday, and we got the job done. But the idea that all of a sudden we're in good form so Karl deserves to keep his job until the end of the season is nonsense.

 

[SteMerritt]

Nope, sorry, not accepting this.

I DID give Robinson credit for the win higher up in the thread. What I took issue with is the idea we are in particularly good form.

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We are ninth in the form table FFS. It's hardly ground breaking. We beat what was put in front of us yesterday, and we got the job done. But the idea that all of a sudden we're in good form so Karl deserves to keep his job until the end of the season is nonsense.

The only teams to gain more over a point more than us over 6 games are Ipswich, Plymouth, Sheff Wed, and Barnsley. It is not as mediocre as you are making out. Although we need better still.

 

[Wandering Yellow]

The only teams to gain more over a point more than us over 6 games are Ipswich, Plymouth, Sheff Wed, and Barnsley. It is not as mediocre as you are making out. Although we need better still.

Matter of opinion, I guess. You could also say it's only goal difference which means we are not 12th in the form table, which is the epitome of mediocre.

The idea we are in a particularly good vein of form to me is a total fallacy. Others can make their own minds up.

 

[Scotchegg]

Nope, sorry, not accepting this.

I DID give Robinson credit for the win higher up in the thread. What I took issue with is the idea we are in particularly good form.

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We are ninth in the form table FFS. It's hardly ground breaking. We beat what was put in front of us yesterday, and we got the job done. But the idea that all of a sudden we're in good form so Karl deserves to keep his job until the end of the season is nonsense.

We're averaging 1.5 points per game over the last 6 games. If we had been doing that all season we'd be sat around 7th in the league. You're right, it's not ground breaking, but it's enough to build stability and a decent base to improve from.

 

[Wandering Yellow]

We're averaging 1.5 points per game over the last 6 games. If we had been doing that all season we'd be sat around 7th in the league. You're right, it's not ground breaking, but it's enough to build stability and a decent base to improve from.

Perhaps.

Some of our fanbase are very easily pleased. They might not be if they knew the full facts about our budget this season. But let's not go down that rabbit hole again.

 

[Mad Dog]

Nope, sorry, not accepting this.

I DID give Robinson credit for the win higher up in the thread. What I took issue with is the idea we are in particularly good form.

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We are ninth in the form table FFS. It's hardly ground breaking. We beat what was put in front of us yesterday, and we got the job done. But the idea that all of a sudden we're in good form so Karl deserves to keep his job until the end of the season is nonsense.

I never said we were in particularly good or ground breaking form OR that KR deserves to keep his job until the end of the season did I?!? I actually said I'm still of the belief that he has taken us as far as he can.

I also simply stated that our form has improved from where it was a dozen games ago, when we were an absolute shambles, heading for a relegation fight, and that like it or not, KR deserves some credit for that.

I also simply stated that due to the fact our form has improved over the last dozen games, KR has clearly saved his job, when he must've been hanging by a thread until then, and that what with the board clearly trusting him with another window's budget, it's obvious he aint going anywhere this season.

Maybe read peoples post before replying eh? Otherwise you just make yourself look rather foolish I'm afraid.

 

[Cotswolds Cowboy]

It's all going round in circles really
As others have said I think this issue is settled for the immediate future
Some of us may not like it but there it is

 

[Wandering Yellow]

I never said we were in particularly good or ground breaking form OR that KR deserves to keep his job until the end of the season did I?!? I actually said I'm still of the belief that he has taken us as far as he can.

I also simply stated that our form has improved from where it was a dozen games ago, when we were an absolute shambles, heading for a relegation fight, and that like it or not, KR deserves some credit for that.

I also simply stated that due to the fact our form has improved over the last dozen games, KR has clearly saved his job, when he must've been hanging by a thread until then, and that what with the board clearly trusting him with another window's budget, it's obvious he aint going anywhere this season.

Maybe read peoples post before replying eh? Otherwise you just make yourself look rather foolish I'm afraid.

I disagreed with your claim that "this recent run of form" was enough to keep Karl in a job. I am not sure why you believe that ninth in the form table should "clearly saved Karl his job". Why? Why should be accept his continuous falling behind what should be expected?

I then provided statistics to back up my opinion, whilst respecting that others can draw their own conclusion. I have no idea how you believe that makes me look foolish.

For your information, I always read posts in full. Disagreeing with someones opinion, which you are entitled to do, does not make that person foolish.

 

[yellowbow]

This thread is starting to feel a little pointless now, as although many of us (myself included) think KR has taken us as far as he can, and have grown tired of his ways, it's pretty obvious that with this recent run of form, he has saved his job, and will be trusted with another transfer window's budget, and will be here for the rest of this season, at least.

With that in mind, we really have no choice but to hope he really has learned his lesson this time, and will recruit in a more mature, sensible and considered way, and maybe with the help of those above him, to keep him in line, will not make any silly/crazy decisions!

We will then have to give him and the team our unwavering support for the remainder of the season, we'll really have no choice, and what will be, will be.

Whether or not KR is still here next season, he's here now, and clearly isn't going anywhere, so I'd rather we support him and the team, and let's just hope this recent form is the slow but steady start of a return to an upward trajectory, although I feel success this season may be wishful thinking....time will tell.

Big month ahead...

You say ‘help from those above him’ but who is actually above him? I would say TW certainly isn’t from the way he speaks. GF is probably keeping close tabs on things but I suspect KR still holds a lot more clout than many assume

 

[Swaby39]

Nope, sorry, not accepting this.

I DID give Robinson credit for the win higher up in the thread. What I took issue with is the idea we are in particularly good form.

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We are ninth in the form table FFS. It's hardly ground breaking. We beat what was put in front of us yesterday, and we got the job done. But the idea that all of a sudden we're in good form so Karl deserves to keep his job until the end of the season is nonsense.

I don’t know what you aren’t having. I haven’t said you can’t be disappointed in our form/season, I’ve said you shouldn’t knock yesterday’s result just because our opposition had an off day.

But whilst we’re there, 9th isn’t ground breaking, no, but it’s hardly some sort of embarrassment. More to the point, it’s a stark improvement on our early season form and it was never going to turn with 5 or 6 wins on the bounce. You can also visibly see we are growing as a team, looking more ourselves.

What we currently are, is a difficult side to beat over 90 mins. But still well short of a cutting edge that has been visible in the better teams we’ve played. We’re therefore drawing games where we’ve done plenty to win. Ipswich were simply too good for us and we can have few complaints on that one. Bad day at the office. It happens. We will lose games at some point even if we’re top of the league. But we’ve played far better recently than we showed that day and were missing some good players (Bate a big one, as it turns out) so as I said at the time, it’s wrong to be completely disheartened by that and start labelling us a relegation candidate.

You can only get 3 points from a game - nothing more. That’s the maximum. You can’t NOT be happy when you get them.

 

[werthersoriginal]

Matter of opinion, I guess. You could also say it's only goal difference which means we are not 12th in the form table, which is the epitome of mediocre.

The idea we are in a particularly good vein of form to me is a total fallacy. Others can make their own minds up.

We are what we are, an inconsistent mid table side who can be brilliant or terrible or in between. We’re certainly better than we were at the start of the season but it’s not unreasonable to say we should be better. Very enjoyable game last night however.

 

[bazzer9461]

We're averaging 1.5 points per game over the last 6 games. If we had been doing that all season we'd be sat around 7th in the league. You're right, it's not ground breaking, but it's enough to build stability and a decent base to improve from.

It might improve more after January as long as the transfer window is used wisely.
I can’t see the board doing anything drastic until the end of the season and that will be down to how the team perform and a decent transfer window in January although I’ve heard it won’t be a very active window.
But winning one match against a very ooor Charlton isn’t anything to whoop it up Imover the manager if it warrants it at the end of the season Thames we can all whoop it up.

 

[Wandering Yellow]

We are what we are, an inconsistent mid table side who can be brilliant or terrible or in between. We’re certainly better than we were at the start of the season but it’s not unreasonable to say we should be better. Very enjoyable game last night however.

Agreed.

I think we should sack KR as being mid table on his budget isn't good enough. It certainly is going around in circles.

 

[bazzer9461]

I disagreed with your claim that "this recent run of form" was enough to keep Karl in a job. I am not sure why you believe that ninth in the form table should "clearly saved Karl his job". Why? Why should be accept his continuous falling behind what should be expected?

I then provided statistics to back up my opinion, whilst respecting that others can draw their own conclusion. I have no idea how you believe that makes me look foolish.

For your information, I always read posts in full. Disagreeing with someones opinion, which you are entitled to do, does not make that person foolish.

That’s half the problem some people don’t like being disagreed with.

 

[yellowbow]

Sorry, this REALLY annoys me. Why discredit the win? I know why, but we won’t go there.

We were fantastic yesterday. They were poor on the day, yes, or in other words you could say they weren’t as good as us… We don’t choose our opponents or how they play, Karl’s job is just to beat them. He’s done that this time. URGH.

Does it change our current situation? Yes, by 3 points!! Is it enough to change the view of the masses who want him gone, no! Doesn’t mean you can’t pat him on the back for a good performance.

Oh come on! We weren’t fantastic. Yes we ultimately achieved a much needed win by a decent score but Leaburn had an equaliser on a plate at a time where we were ragged and rocking. Had he taken that then things might have been very different. The first half - great. We lost our way a bit in the second half.

I know you’re a pro-KR person and understand your frustration at some of the unnecessary criticism on here but let’s not rewrite history. Fair play to him last night though - we did see some of the good things that he can bring to the table. Some of the football in the first half was up there with some of the great stuff we’ve seen from his teams in the past. Let’s hope it’s a sign of good things to come.

 

[Peterdev]

I was in the Robinson out camp a short while ago, after some absolutely awful games. Last nights game reminded me of some of the enjoyable games last season. Obviously it is essential we continue this through to the Exeter game, and move towards the play offs.
We have a few players at last hitting some form. Lewis Bate is one of the best players I have seen in an Oxford shirt. id love him to stay here as a permanent signing but I fear he will be back at Leeds especially come next season. I’d love the board to pay him if he’d agree to stay.
Nice to see McGinty given a chance again. He needs a run in the side.
I hope everyone on here has a cracking new year. I want Robinson to succeed here, and I’m right behind him now

 

[Mad Dog]

I disagreed with your claim that "this recent run of form" was enough to keep Karl in a job. I am not sure why you believe that ninth in the form table should "clearly saved Karl his job". Why? Why should be accept his continuous falling behind what should be expected?

I then provided statistics to back up my opinion, whilst respecting that others can draw their own conclusion. I have no idea how you believe that makes me look foolish.

For your information, I always read posts in full. Disagreeing with someones opinion, which you are entitled to do, does not make that person foolish.

You may very well read posts in full, but as you've just proved again, you need to read them MORE CLEARLY!

We fans might not be happy with our form this season, understandably so, and once again, I clearly stated that I'm still in favour of a change of management, but my point was that this recent improvement in form, whilst not great, has, in the boards eyes, clearly been enough to keep KR in his job, I didn't say I thought it "should" save him his job, or that I thought we were in particularly good form, or that I thought he deserved to keep his job until the end of the season.

Again, read posts more clearly, then your responses may actually be more in line with what was originally posted. Failure to do so, is what will make you look foolish

 

[Swaby39]

Oh come on! We weren’t fantastic. Yes we ultimately achieved a much needed win by a decent score but Leaburn had an equaliser on a plate at a time where we were ragged and rocking. Had he taken that then things might have been very different. The first half - great. We lost our way a bit in the second half.

I know you’re a pro-KR person and understand your frustration at some of the unnecessary criticism on here but let’s not rewrite history. Fair play to him last night though - we did see some of the good things that he can bring to the table. Some of the football in the first half was up there with some of the great stuff we’ve seen from his teams in the past. Let’s hope it’s a sign of good things to come.

That first paragraph is ifs, buts and whatever else but that only ever seems to come up when it’s against us. You’re right, the second half was patchy and It was a great chance for 2-2 but our keeper came through for us. Is it a miss or did the keeper come out on top? Why discredit McGinty for a massive stop? It’s only a let off if he puts it wide. This is the part of the psychology of some of our fan base that I can’t understand at the moment and I think it ALL centres around whether you’re Karl in, or Karl out. It’s daft. We’re a bang average team. But when we do something right, it’s always because our opponent let us or we got some luck. I find that tedious so when I see it, I tend to weigh in.

I see yesterday’s game differently. First half we were excellent - we really were. Second half we were OK, moved the ball just as well with less opportunities to break but they threw everything at us in our weak spots while we nervously tried to see things out with players that aren’t really designed for that. Their changes were positive and effective. Looking at the 90 mins, I thought it was the right result and a reflective score line. Karl made good changes and we were better in the key moments. No luck involved. Plenty of teams have done it to us.

Woah woah - I’m not pro KR! I’ve wanted him out for weeks. What I am (or try to be) is a fair judge. Whilst I may not see Karl as the long term solution to a problem of his own making, I can clearly see when he’s got it right on the day or done something positive. I’m not afraid to recognise that either. I think Karl is a complicated character but a really, really good coach in the wrong conditions - or the wrong club. There’s too much trust here for him to take advantage of. The board are seemingly unwilling to change that - or if they are, they are far more patient than most to implement that. I don’t like it, but it’s easier to live with when we win.