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Who will win the US Election on Tuesday?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 25 46.3%

  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 29 53.7%
  • Total voters
    54
  • Poll closed .
werthersoriginal said:
It is true that we have a notional third party who are no use, and their prominence in the coalition actually seems to have helped precipitate the current nightmare. And the emergence of UKIP as a force was also a big factor in the way the country has been polarized and rhetoric has become aggressive and simplistic. So while I appreciate what you're saying, a third party alone might not help.
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The Lib Dems had the problem that the right wing press hung all the bad stuff of the Coalition on them, absolving the Tories. Plus the press hammered the thing about the students ignoring that compromise was required. I still think the coalition was one of the better Govts we've had.
 
Marked Ox said:
The Lib Dems had the problem that the right wing press hung all the bad stuff of the Coalition on them, absolving the Tories. Plus the press hammered the thing about the students ignoring that compromise was required. I still think the coalition was one of the better Govts we've had.
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Don’t necessarily disagree, but it led to the reaction that brought about UKIP, and the Tories lurched to the right to appease them.
 
tonyw said:
Agreed - which is what I was alluding to in Maine.

They now use Ranked Choice Voting for, I believe, everything except the Presidential election.
Hopefully other states will start to see that a) it's a far more representative system, and b) the voters are not too stupid to understand it, and its use will grow.
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Maine also used “instant runoff voting” for the presidential electoral college allocation, which is almost identical to Australia’s single transferable vote.
 
edition.cnn.com

Top prosecutor quits after Barr election fraud order

The Justice Department's top election crimes prosecutor resigned Monday in protest after Attorney General William Barr told federal prosecutors that they should examine allegations of voting irregularities before states move to certify results in the coming weeks.
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And the system gets eroded that little bit more.
 
Its not even in close results / presidential race they are raising baseless accusations. Republican Kimberley Klacik lost in Maryland 7th by 211841 votes to 82896. The Maryland 7th hasn't been Republican since 1843 (when the Republicans were known as the Whig Party) and the % split of the vote was basically the same as the previous 2 elections. But she has raised over $1m to fight the 'corrupt result'...
 
Looks like DT has gone full load for the legal scrap.
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His tweeting is in overdrive as well....................

Its like a highly concentrated version of "Remainers".
 
Essexyellows said:
Looks like DT has gone full load for the legal scrap.
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His tweeting is in overdrive as well....................

Its like a highly concentrated version of "Remainers".
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Thoroughly predictable claims and a repeat of what they have already taken to court in some cases. The Pennsylvanian Election officials have pointed out these claims are BS multiple times (ie. they had to have a timely postmark, the monitoring etc).
 
Marked Ox said:
Thoroughly predictable claims and a repeat of what they have already taken to court in some cases. The Pennsylvanian Election officials have pointed out these claims are BS multiple times (ie. they had to have a timely postmark, the monitoring etc).
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I wonder how long it will be before the courts start drawing the Trump campaigns attention towards rule 11?

https://www.upcounsel.com/legal-def-sanctions-rule-11
 
Without descending into the usual arguments regarding the merits (or otherwise) of Brexit, what do people think is the practical consequence of the Biden victory on the negotiations? I hadn't really considered it before the election, but it seems to me pretty decisive for the UK's supposed negotiating position. No Deal is surely off the table now. As I understand it, Biden has made it clear he will demand that the GFA be respected, which means some sort of deal needs to be struck between the UK and the EU to keep the border in Ireland open. The whole point of No Deal was that it (apparently) liberated us to strike spectacular new trade deals with countries like the US, but such a spectacular new deal would surely be off the cards if we'd erred diplomatically so emphatically just as Biden were taking office. But then Johnson etc. will lose a spectacular amount of political capital with their supporters if they are seen to cowtow to the EU at the last minute. So what's the game plan?

EDIT: Embarrassing incidents like this are I think an indication that the more fervent Brexiteers in government see the writing on the wall for their much sought-after hard Brexit.
 
ttg17 said:
Without descending into the usual arguments regarding the merits (or otherwise) of Brexit, what do people think is the practical consequence of the Biden victory on the negotiations? I hadn't really considered it before the election, but it seems to me pretty decisive for the UK's supposed negotiating position. No Deal is surely off the table now. As I understand it, Biden has made it clear he will demand that the GFA be respected, which means some sort of deal needs to be struck between the UK and the EU to keep the border in Ireland open. The whole point of No Deal was that it (apparently) liberated us to strike spectacular new trade deals with countries like the US, but such a spectacular new deal would surely be off the cards if we'd erred diplomatically so emphatically just as Biden were taking office. But then Johnson etc. will lose a spectacular amount of political capital with their supporters if they are seen to cowtow to the EU at the last minute. So what's the game plan?

EDIT: Embarrassing incidents like this are I think an indication that the more fervent Brexiteers in government see the writing on the wall for their much sought-after hard Brexit.
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Brexit, the yanks should keep their big noses out of our business.
 
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