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So what happened at this meeting then?
Where are all our ITK posters?
all lurking outside the meeting venue?
So what happened at this meeting then?
Where are all our ITK posters?
I thought I read somewhere the grounds value as to what it should be sold at was 13.5 million. As for a new ground there is no way we will get a new ground and unfortunately with that in mind the best we can ask for with the teams that will be in L1 next season will a @1 club flitting with relegation from tile to time. It now needs tiger and the board to step up and take a punt if the wage cap isn’t introduced and go for it regarding the players we need and getting OGB back round the table and not include the OCC as they don’t want football in OxfordI wish that was true @bazzer9461 but, FK can hike the price any time he likes. As for buying the Ozone, just not worthwhile. What would you do with it? It's all tied up with licences in the same manner as the stadium. To do anything with the stadium to improve capacity would involve a very, very expensive re-build. And just where would the club play while that went on? The stadium was never designed for real expansion, don't forget, FK only bought it to get his hands on the rest of the land and to have a bargaining chip with the local council. The original design is past it's sell by date and not fit for purpose.
I grant you that with the land south of Grenoble road looking almost nailed on for development and the proposed expansion of the science park with even the outside chance of a rail link makes the Ozone very attractive as land but, FK already owns it all and is not going to be generous towards OUFC. He doesn't need to, he doesn't need the money, he doesn't need to be liked and he is making a very nice living from the site without having to lift a finger.
Better that the board go to somewhere that is bare earth, start from scratch and build what the local community needs, a community stadium with access to all and a modern and functional multi purpose complex befitting the history of Oxford. (poetic licence that last bit! ? )
Thought that was agreed with him and the OCC but then again the OCC are as corrupt as they comeDo you trust Mr Kassam to stick to that price if he has a keen buyer?
Are promotion bonus(es) definite for Baptiste (and Fosu) then? What sort of bunce we would we be looking at?
If so, I have a reason to cheer somebody on then now Oxford's race is run. C'mon the super Bees!
Two things though. One, he knows that we’re going through unprecedented times at the moment and that no club apart from the likes of Man City can make any promises at the moment regarding finances, and Two, surely he’s been party to the conversations regarding the plans going forward leading up to the play off final. Tiger has already spoken about the contingency plans depending on what league they were going to find themselves in. He must have already had a good idea of the clubs level of ‘ambition’I have a funny feeling he will be gone, I hope I’m wrong but sounded to me like he knows he’s going to lose players and have a budget less than this season, not saying the board is wrong to do this with what’s going on at the moment, but it could cost us our manager, all really depends if teams have been putting out any tentative enquiries to him,because if they have I think he will keep his options open.
all lurking outside the meeting venue?
Two things though. One, he knows that we’re going through unprecedented times at the moment and that no club apart from the likes of Man City can make any promises at the moment regarding finances, and Two, surely he’s been party to the conversations regarding the plans going forward leading up to the play off final. Tiger has already spoken about the contingency plans depending on what league they were going to find themselves in. He must have already had a good idea of the clubs level of ‘ambition’
Which makes Robinsons comments after the final a bit baffling. Either he was just in an emotional mess and was sending out a defiant message that he was intending to come out all guns blazing next year and that was his way of expressing it, or, more worrying, it was a ‘come and get me’ plea to bigger clubs out there.
Two things though. One, he knows that we’re going through unprecedented times at the moment and that no club apart from the likes of Man City can make any promises at the moment regarding finances, and Two, surely he’s been party to the conversations regarding the plans going forward leading up to the play off final. Tiger has already spoken about the contingency plans depending on what league they were going to find themselves in. He must have already had a good idea of the clubs level of ‘ambition’
Which makes Robinsons comments after the final a bit baffling. Either he was just in an emotional mess and was sending out a defiant message that he was intending to come out all guns blazing next year and that was his way of expressing it, or, more worrying, it was a ‘come and get me’ plea to bigger clubs out there.
To be fair to him, I think Robinson has been looking to go with a ‘quarterback’ in front of the back 4 for a long time, hence the perseverance with Thorne. It’ll be interesting to see if he can bring in a dominant, experienced midfield general this transfer window. That, along with a good CF and an experienced CB (if/when Dickie goes) are essential I think.I have a feeling it was the latter to be honest. I think as a team they all have to learn, I like Robinson and he’s done wonders for our club but he got found out in the final and both legs of the semi’s IMO for not having a plan B, I really hope he stays and tries to develop another way of playing alongside this nice footballing stuff we play. If we had that this season I honestly think we would of got promotion. I think if you look at it in reflection, it was a good season, just he didn’t want to change things until it was too late, I have to say once I saw in the final that we were going to be playing 4-3-3 I feared the worst because we knew Wycombe were going to flood the midfield, as soon as we brought kelly on and he dropped in front of the back 4 to collect the ball and start the attacks, we looked so much more dangerous as Brannagan & Sykes were able to push much further forward, that’s what Robinson needs to learn from us losing. That’s just my opinion anyway.
I agree with what you are saying about supporting the club. The only thing I would say, is Karl Robinson has been so much more than a football manager for us. He has been the main spokesman, been excellent off the pitch (as well as on it) he genuinely cares about the club and it's fans, is always honest and never ducks a situation or question. Plenty of managers would have walked out for much less than he has had to deal with in the last 2 years. We look certain to lose Dickie and Brannagan, which will be difficult. But to lose Robinson, that's a disaster.He didn’t jump when his stock was high at MK and has been in L1 as a manager ever since. After a playoff final and some high profile cup exploits he’s in the public eye again. He knows that. His public a**e wiggling in February and his constant public tensions with the board are the markings of a man who understands that football is all about tactics and timing, and knowing when and how to jump between platforms. He has to decide whether he twists where in the past he has stuck. He’s at a crossroads where his stock is relatively high.
All I would say is that people need to remember that they support Oxford United, not him or any other individual. Rate him, like him, hope he stays, do whatever you want. But don’t make the mistake of picking sides or getting too involved or invested in other people’s chess games. All players and all managers are ultimately in it for themselves and rightfully so - it is a brutal industry where nobody will look out for you other than yourself. Lose five games in a row and you can be unemployed where only a month earlier everything seemed steady and optimistic. That’s the nature of the beast. But supporters should always know what side of the bread they should butter, no matter what people do to convince them otherwise.
My advice to anyone and everyone: support the club, regardless of what happens with the manager, coaches or anyone else in the weeks ahead.
Just in time for the start of next season then!I feel like it's that time again when we'll be waiting until January before we hear about any decisions being made.