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[YellowTaxi]

Strange that you rarely get round to mentioning the policies you support on here @Gary Baldi

What do you mean "I sit on the fringes of life" by the way? You know nothing about me whatsoever.

 

[Scotchegg]

The lockdown and decisions around it have been going in 3 week blocks. The indications are that we will only ease restrictions a little this time round, so people are beginning to look ahead to early June for the next lot of "openings". So it doesn't imply that there is a huge conspiracy when different sectors start looking at what the next phase looks like for them, and how they can use the next few weeks to prepare.

Schools in particular have their half terms at the end of May, with the last term due to start on 1st June. Back in March, our local schools were putting plans in place to reopen from then. But nothing is set in stone, but it would be foolish to do nothing until the decision at the top is made.

 

[QR]

The lockdown and decisions around it have been going in 3 week blocks. The indications are that we will only ease restrictions a little this time round, so people are beginning to look ahead to early June for the next lot of "openings". So it doesn't imply that there is a huge conspiracy when different sectors start looking at what the next phase looks like for them, and how they can use the next few weeks to prepare.

Schools in particular have their half terms at the end of May, with the last term due to start on 1st June. Back in March, our local schools were putting plans in place to reopen from then. But nothing is set in stone, but it would be foolish to do nothing until the decision at the top is made.

Who said there's a "huge conspiracy"? What conspiracy?

 

[Scotchegg]

Who said there's a "huge conspiracy"? What conspiracy?

You and others talking of leaked messages which is why schools are suddenly looking at what might happen in June!

 

[chuckbert]

You and others talking of leaked messages which is why schools are suddenly looking at what might happen in June!

Is governments leaking messages a “huge conspiracy“? Isn’t that what they do all the f*****g time now? It’s a barely concealed policy not a conspiracy! (And just to reiterate, not limited to the current shower).

 

[YellowTaxi]

Another public health doctor .

https://twitter.com/x/status/1258662941773238273

 

[QR]

You and others talking of leaked messages which is why schools are suddenly looking at what might happen in June!

What? It's now a conspiracy to say the press were briefed the day before they all came out with identical stories? Get a grip!

 

[Scotchegg]

Is governments leaking messages a “huge conspiracy“? Isn’t that what they do all the f*****g time now? It’s a barely concealed policy not a conspiracy! (And just to reiterate, not limited to the current shower).

Instead of talking about leaking messages talk about contingency planning, and then the narrative changes from a negative to a positive.

Schools are an easy example. Right at the beginning they were asked to look at ensuring a provision was in place for children of keyworkers ahead of potentially closing the schools. Then the time frames worked around school terms. What is needed to open schools back up, in any capacity, after Easter. Then from 1st June, then anytime before the summer break, and finally, what does September look like. That is all sensible planning that is very different for different schools and age groups, so entirely appropriate that it is looked at from a local level.

So when schools/colleges start talking about planning for reopenings in June, that's not because of leaked messages but simply looking at the next possible point and planning accordingly.

The logistics of any return to any kind of normal will be huge, and it's not unreasonable that many will be thinking of that well ahead of time.

 

[chuckbert]

the narrative changes from a negative to a positive.

a.k.a. “spin”?

 

[Scotchegg]

a.k.a. “spin”?

It can spin both ways!!

 

[YellowTaxi]

It’s almost touching the lengths the three loyal supporters will go to protect the government from any criticism or accepting any responsibility

https://twitter.com/x/status/1258614617422606336

A government incidentally that has allowed four times the number of deaths in this country than in Germany.

 

[QR]

Instead of talking about leaking messages talk about contingency planning,

Leaking to the press is not contingency planning FFS!

 

[YellowTaxi]

The problem with this government is the extent to which leaking to the press and showboating has replaced contingency planning.

 

[chuckbert]

Instead of talking about leaking messages talk about contingency planning, and then the narrative changes from a negative to a positive.

Schools are an easy example. Right at the beginning they were asked to look at ensuring a provision was in place for children of keyworkers ahead of potentially closing the schools. Then the time frames worked around school terms. What is needed to open schools back up, in any capacity, after Easter. Then from 1st June, then anytime before the summer break, and finally, what does September look like. That is all sensible planning that is very different for different schools and age groups, so entirely appropriate that it is looked at from a local level.

So when schools/colleges start talking about planning for reopenings in June, that's not because of leaked messages but simply looking at the next possible point and planning accordingly.

The logistics of any return to any kind of normal will be huge, and it's not unreasonable that many will be thinking of that well ahead of time.

Ok, a straighter answer based on what is happening here. The state govt (in Oz, states are responsible for education) publicly announces something on the lines of “we would like the schools to prepare for the following situations ... hybrid online teaching in two weeks, schools fully open in 4 weeks“. The announcement is made to everyone, and then the schools get on with it. No confusion, no mixed messages - one message made publicly. It’s actually not that hard if the govt is confident.
The problems happen when govts start ”soft-launching” stuff. It’s marketing bullshit, and it allows plausible deniability. If it goes well credit can be claimed and if it goes badly then everyone can be blamed for jumping the gun. Heads and teachers get grief and parents feel frustrated.

 

[Scotchegg]

Leaking to the press is not contingency planning FFS!

Which is why I didn't mention it FFS!!!

Maybe you should read a little more and get a grip yourself!

 

[Oxt1]

Leaking to the press is not contingency planning FFS!

Whilst we all appear to be playing conspiracy theory bingo.... does it have to be Boris's lot leaking it to the press?? Scotland, Wales, NI are all party to the same discussions and at least one of those has cause to think making Westminster look bad is advantageous... like I said conspiracy bingo/guessing games/mud slinging or making assumptions to fit political biases central, end of the day we just don't know!!!

 

[YellowTaxi]

Yes. There’s no doubt it’s Johnson’s team.

 

[Oxt1]

Yes. There’s no doubt it’s Johnson’s team.

Genuine question but why? The Welsh have just announced some limited relaxation, in a similar tone, could it not of been picked up there and extrapolated across, or Sturgeon has an issue where their R rate is higher than the rest of the UK, could her lot not be using the information to try and shame the rest into continuing the status quo to help hide her issues... or us politicking only done down here by Boris et al?

 

[YellowTaxi]

Because Laura Kuennsberg the Mail and the Sun don’t all agree on what the story is on a briefing from the Welsh or the Scots.

If you look at the two editions of the Daily Mail and the Scottish Daily Mail you’ll see they have different headlines and the Scottish Daily Mail has its information from the Scottish government.

 

[Oxt1]

Because Laura Kuennsberg the Mail and the Sun don’t all agree on what the story is on a briefing from the Welsh or the Scots.

Let me get my head around this, so other parties briefed / involved in the discussions wouldn't be believed by Kuennsberg or the mail?