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They absolutely have brought this upon themselves.It says so much about the lack of goodwill towards the management at the club that people are so very unhappy about this.
Agreements such as this one happen all the time, particularly when the next meeting between the clubs is fairly close.
That said, they’ve brought it upon themselves.
It says so much about the lack of goodwill towards the management at the club that people are so very unhappy about this.
Agreements such as this one happen all the time, particularly when the next meeting between the clubs is fairly close.
That said, they’ve brought it upon themselves.
Us: Can we have OD for £x?Nope, i'm sorry but it's absolute tosh.
We purchased the player. It isn't a loan, he is ours to do as we see fit with him (on a football level, i might add!). Had the club agreed to some ridiculous clause and it was a contractual obligation of the transaction, while it would be odd, it would be legally binding and there would be nothing that we could do.
However, a gentleman's agreement is not legally binding and we are amidst of a pretty poor run with every point extremely valuable. We keep hearing Des bleating about players that are missing, yet the club are willing to go out of their way to see one of the only fit wingers that we have, not play against a promotion rival!
Worth also bearing in mind that this deal was done on 29.01.24 (announced later, granted). At the time, all of the wingers that were unavailable then, remain unavailable now. There are no new injuries in the attacking wide areas and so the club, upon agreeing to a 'gentleman's agreement' at that time, knew full well that they'd be gambling on the fitness of injured players being available to come back in for the Blackpool game. It is mind boggling that the club would hamstring itself like this. Seriously, why would they?
Tends to suggest they’ve asked after him signing and we’ve agreed to it. Pathetic.They absolutely have brought this upon themselves.
In the player's own interview on signing, he's asked about how much he's looking forward to the upcoming game against his now former club. He sounds bang up for it.
Left hand, meet right hand.
More likely to be that the Comms Manager wasn't informed of the situation when conducting the interview.Tends to suggest they’ve asked after him signing and we’ve agreed to it. Pathetic.
That’s a big if.If we all loved Tim, Des and the gang at the moment, no one would bat an eyelid at this turn of events.
Us: Can we have OD for £x?
Them: Yes, but in the understanding that he cannot play against us next week. We don’t want to take a risk that he might materially affect the game in your favour. It’s a bad look for us.
Us: We can’t agree to that. We’ll look bad in front of our supporters.
Them: No deal then.
Us: We’d rather have him for all but one of the games than none of them. OK, it’s a deal.
As for breaking the agreement, is that how you want OUFC act? Football’s very small industry and our ever decreasing reputation would soon take another hit.
If we all loved Tim, Des and the gang at the moment, no one would bat an eyelid at this turn of events.
My issue isn’t with the gentleman’s agreement.
My issue is why wasn’t this said in the Owen Dale signs news article so it would’ve all blown over by now? Why’s it taking Jerome from BBC Radio Oxford to tell us today.
Why is Dale saying he’s looking forward to playing in the Reading derby followed by the trip to Blackpool in his ifollow interview?
Communciation
No truer word than one said in jest!Not sure why you are all getting worked up about this, he is probably injured like all of our January signings anyway
Do you know how utterly underhand and archaic that sounds?Us: Can we have OD for £x?
Them: Yes, but in the understanding that he cannot play against us next week. We don’t want to take a risk that he might materially affect the game in your favour. It’s a bad look for us.
Us: We can’t agree to that. We’ll look bad in front of our supporters.
Them: No deal then.
Us: We’d rather have him for all but one of the games than none of them. OK, it’s a deal.
As for breaking the agreement, is that how you want OUFC act? Football’s very small industry and our ever decreasing reputation would soon take another hit.
If we all loved Tim, Des and the gang at the moment, no one would bat an eyelid at this turn of events.
What are you talking about?
There’s nothing archaic there. It’s called negotiation. The world isn’t black and white.
I agree 100%. Unprofessional.It just shouldn’t happen and we certainly shouldn’t be hearing about it via the local media!
Everyone should have a walk away position in any negotiation. Clearly, the stipulation made by BFC concerning Dale was acceptable to OUFC. My guess is that the inconvenience of missing him for one game, albeit an important one, was outweighed by the benefits if having him for all the others.If you purchase a car, would you ‘negotiate’ with the retailer and accept not using the car on a Saturday? Personally, I’d want to use what is mine, when I see fit and not when suits the person selling
All well and good but how likely is that, realistically? To flip the argument on its head, would Blackpool really have walked away from the deal to get a fair chunk of money and some decent wages off the books because he might play against them for a game? Realistically the chance of the full 90 is slim as well. He doesn't fit their system so it's not like they had a massive use for him. Maybe someone else would have come in and had him but it's a hell of a risk. I don't know the ins and outs of what we paid or what he was earning but I don't think it would be unreasonable that the deal is worth a quarter of a million to Blackpool in terms of fee and saved wages. Are they goin to risk losing that for the sake of one game?The question I’d ask anyone unhappy about this element of the deal is if BFC’s walk away threshold was this gentlemen’s agreement, would you rather OUFC had refused to agree and consequently not have OD for the other 16 games plus the (don’t laugh) Play-Off fixtures?