Current Player #30 Owen Dale

[Northstandboy]

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[Manorlounger]

Is there a dispute?

That would come down to how each side interpret the rules as laid down. If either fear that they have a potential breach by virtue of the so called "Gentleman's agreement" becoming public knowledge and, as such, a potential points deduction (or other sanction) then perhaps, OUFC, for example, may see fit to include Owen Dale in the match day squad (but not play) as a way to circumvent any breach. At that point, perhaps, Blackpool could say that the agreement has been broken (in the spirit of the agreement) - apologies, this getting very convoluted!
Would that indicate a dispute? Would the EFL simply see it as a breach of the rules and sanction both? Would the two clubs dispute the existence of the agreement?

I believe "shitstorm" is the appropriate description!

 

[Sheik djibouti]

I say, call Blackpools bluff, put Dale in the squad tomorrow and then let Blackpool try and make a dispute out of it. Pretty sure they'll get short shrift from the league or FA.

Who else are they going to go crying to?

Just a shame our senior management were party to it in the first place.

 

[Followtheox1]

Interesting that it’s under ‘Guidance’. By definition, it’s not an instruction.

Also, ‘any dispute between two clubs’ indicates to me that FA rule K is only invoked when there’s a dispute. Is there in this case?

I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

It depends what adhering to the guidance means. With some guidance the rule is, it can broken but only for a good reason.

 

[Yellow River]

I say, call Blackpools bluff, put Dale in the squad tomorrow and then let Blackpool try and make a dispute out of it. Pretty sure they'll get short shrift from the league or FA.

Who else are they going to go crying to?

Just a shame our senior management were party to it in the first place.

Unless there is an almighty U-turn, Dale won’t be playing.

Des has already said he can’t play him, plus the official match preview says he won't be available against his former club.

 

[holdsteady]

So have we also foolishly agreed that Will Goodwin will not play against Cheltenham on March 9th?

If we ever play Liverpool Brannagan isn't allowed to play.

 

[Joey]

If we ever play Liverpool Brannagan isn't allowed to play.

We had a similar arrangement with Barcelona when we signed Xemi but it never came up in the end, which was a bit of a let off for the board at the time.

 

[Marked Ox]

All of Tiendalli's ex clubs insisted he would have to start if we played them.

 

[RyanioBirdio]

Going back a few posts, @RyanioBirdio explained it very well.

Although it’s worth noting that you can’t agree to break the law, so even if a verbal agreement is enforceable it would be void if the outcome was illegal, or in breach of regulation.

What a mess.

 

[billyturleyscurlywurly]

Official OUFC website confirmed Dale won’t be part of squad.

 

[Paul Cannell]

Sounds like Critchley might be as out of step with the Senior Management at Blackpool as Des appears to be with the Senior Management at OUFC.

Critchley is (understandably) playing a straight bat on this one. AS far as he's concerned, we met their valuation, the player wanted the move - bish,bash,bosh - everyone's happy (supposedly).

Critchley is saying that his club hasn't made a plainly interdicted* agreement with Oxford. The worst you can say is that he's making a statement that won't damage his club. Whether there was an agreement or not, Blackpool officials are playing it 'business correctly'.

On the other hand, iirc Jerome was wittering about Dale not playing because of a 'gentleman's agreement' on a podcast a few days ago. Now Des Buckingham has deplored that he can't play Dale publicly. Stop Press: and now the OUFC website has confirmed Dale won't be in the squad.

Our CEO has experience as 'group finance controller' of the Man Utd Group**. Surely he is not unaware that gentleman's agreements aren't allowed? Perhaps he's too busy. Perhaps he believes that no publicity's bad publicity.

What a shambles.




* The rules say you're not allowed to make side agreements in transfer deals, being verbal is irrelevant.

** Presumably the Manchester based English football club rather than a tree-hugging fellowship.

 

[Osei Yaw]

Simplest solution for me is that Dale is allowed to play, but none of our players can deliberately pass him the ball.

 

[MJB]

Simplest solution for me is that Dale is allowed to play, but none of our players can deliberately pass him the ball.

(Psst, don’t pass to Vardy)

 

[Berliner]

Simplest solution for me is that Dale is allowed to play, but none of our players can deliberately pass him the ball.

Didn't work with Dan Agyei...

 

[behindthegoal]

'He's Oxford's player now,' states Blackpool boss amid reports of a 'gentleman's agreement' concerning Owen Dale

Blackpool boss Neil Critchley says it’s Oxford United’s call whether they use Owen Dale in this weekend’s game at Bloomfield Road amid rumours of an agreement not to play him.

www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk

 

[SirAndyOfCrosby]

Owen Moxon moved from Carlisle to Pompey before the deadline and they play each other tomorrow.

I’ll bet a pound to a penny that he’s in the Pompey squad.

Yeap, came on for the final 15 minutes.

I also just noticed that Niall Ennis scored today for Stoke at Blackburn - having joined the former from the latter on deadline day.

So whatever arrangement we had with Blackpool over Dale is looking increasingly irregular and unnecessary.

 

[Northstandboy]

Didn’t need him after all then

 

[CCYellow]

Didn’t need him after all then

He could have been the difference between 1 point and all 3....




Or 0 of course.

 

[Symp59]

Go and score Tuesday, and get the team winning.

 

[BD Yellow]

Simplest solution for me is that Dale is allowed to play, but none of our players can deliberately pass him the ball.

That was certainly the case in the first half v Wigan

 

[Osei Yaw]

That was certainly the case in the first half v Wigan

And the second half.