Transfer News 2022/23 Season Incoming Transfers and a few other things

[Berliner]

Injury updates...

Hope nobody else in the Oxford area needs a scan this week...we've just taken all the appointments

 

[uptheus]

Injury updates...

Hope nobody else in the Oxford area needs a scan this week...we've just taken all the appointments

We’re so unlucky! Who would have thought this!

And it’s odd when a lot of those players have had threatened career injuries whilst being out long term previously, and not having good preseason/getting up to MATCH fitness!

Strange that a number of them are getting quad/hamstring injuries; Wildschut, Henry, Gorrin (he didn’t even play), Murphy and Moore. Something in the training/stretches etc?

 

[SirAndyOfCrosby]

I’ve just been to the shop and they didn’t have any Toffee Crisp’s.

Sorry, but I can’t be positive right now. Not after that.

All this talk of Toffee Crisps - I can't help but feel that we should be doing all we can to secure them as a shirt sponsor for a new 3rd Kit (Chief Exec status back on?)!

 

[ttg17]

My issue with Whyte, as understatedly good as he may have been last year, was that this squad just seems like it’s crying out for some freshening up. Everything seems very stale and going through the motions at the moment. At least part of that surely is having largely the same personnel starting games at the moment as we’re here last year. Joseph really stood out for me on sat just because he added something different, his running the channels in the second half added an impetus and freshness that we have lacked in these opening few games. Perhaps this is too simplistic, but I am wary of just recycling the same players.

 

[Chippy]

I’d be happy for Gavin Whyte to sign for us on a permanent or loan again.

Can’t understand how we couldn’t afford him a month to 6 weeks ago when he could have hit the ground running, yet signed two other wingers who must be on not dissimilar wages, and who were totally unfit when they arrived and have managed just 60 mins between them this season as a result of “unlucky“ injuries.

Either Whyte wasn’t in our plans, but is again now because of injuries, or we wanted him all along but couldn’t afford him, but somehow can again now, despite having forked out on the injured players as well on top!

 

[Swaby39]

Really surprised there isn’t more excitement around Whyte. I know it’s not a shiny new name but if you put his attributes down on paper, he’s everything we need - injury crisis or not. I thought we took him for granted last year and the reaction here backs that up. He was one I hoped we’d get done way back in June so I’m personally delighted this is a possibility.

Again I find myself asking what calibre of player people really expected us to capture if this isn’t good enough? I feel like if we signed Whyte under a different name, we’d be happy wouldn’t we? We got Murphy but that hype lasted all of 5 minutes because apparently an 8 week injury renders him a poor signing. Wildschut similar - who was not injury prone. They didn’t arrive on crutches so an injury shouldn’t distract from the fact they were good captures for us. Just a massive shame we won’t see them for a while. But I am confused as to what standard of player is going to be deemed acceptable around here if Gavin Whyte is seen as underwhelming.

 

[Scotchegg]

I’d be happy for Gavin Whyte to sign for us on a permanent or loan again.

Can’t understand how we couldn’t afford him a month to 6 weeks ago when he could have hit the ground running, yet signed two other wingers who must be on not dissimilar wages, and who were totally unfit when they arrived and have managed just 60 mins between them this season as a result of “unlucky“ injuries.

Either Whyte wasn’t in our plans, but is again now because of injuries, or we wanted him all along but couldn’t afford him, but somehow can again now, despite having forked out on the injured players as well on top!

Cardiff were always looking to recoup as much of their initial fee as possible, so it was always a waiting game. They now know that there are few other takers and want him off the wage bill so he becomes much more affordable. Whyte has always been on our radar, but not at silly money.

 

[Mad Dog]

Henry and Gorrin out as well now.

We’re suffering way too many muscle injuries, and long term injuries for it to be anything but poor recruitment and poor fitness training.

It’s bordering on being amateurish

 

[Oxford1996]

oh that's me told then, that's Kyle Joseph off my message list as he said Karl was one the reasons for coming here.

As for Swansea being happy to let one of their promising youngsters go and sit on his backside for 12 Months being 4th/ 5th choice, words fail me.

You learn something new everyday.

Yeah I’m sure they’re devastated Karl was such a massive pull so they went and got someone else….

https://twitter.com/x/status/1561669515909517313

 

[tatabanya]

Yeah I’m sure they’re devastated Karl was such a massive pull so they went and got someone else….

https://twitter.com/x/status/1561669515909517313

I don't understand what point you're making - do you think Sheff Wed made an offer for Joseph as some kind of joke?

 

[SirAndyOfCrosby]

Really surprised there isn’t more excitement around Whyte. I know it’s not a shiny new name but if you put his attributes down on paper, he’s everything we need - injury crisis or not. I thought we took him for granted last year and the reaction here backs that up. He was one I hoped we’d get done way back in June so I’m personally delighted this is a possibility.

Again I find myself asking what calibre of player people really expected us to capture if this isn’t good enough? I feel like if we signed Whyte under a different name, we’d be happy wouldn’t we? We got Murphy but that hype lasted all of 5 minutes because apparently an 8 week injury renders him a poor signing. Wildschut similar - who was not injury prone. They didn’t arrive on crutches so an injury shouldn’t distract from the fact they were good captures for us. Just a massive shame we won’t see them for a while. But I am confused as to what standard of player is going to be deemed acceptable around here if Gavin Whyte is seen as underwhelming.

I don't think the issue is with Gavin Whyte per se - it's the reverting to type (signing the same players with previous connections).
It's ok if the odd individual stands out - but the fact that we keep doing it suggests we're not casting our net wide enough (although I accept Yanic was pretty wide). The fact we tried to re-sign Holland would add further weight to this argument - and he was poor last season.

What I (and plenty of others it would seem) would like is for us to sign some top players from this level or even the level below - as identified by the science because they offer exactly what we were lacking last season. It feels instead as though we sign players where the door is already partially open - which again suggests it's sometimes about ease rather than the right player.

We'll get some right, some wrong - but for me our recruitment feels (at times) as though we're signing the players that we can sign - rather than those that we need.

 

[werthersoriginal]

I don't think the issue is with Gavin Whyte per se - it's the reverting to type (signing the same players with previous connections).
It's ok if the odd individual stands out - but the fact that we keep doing it suggests we're not casting our net wide enough (although I accept Yanic was pretty wide). The fact we tried to re-sign Holland would add further weight to this argument - and he was poor last season.

What I (and plenty of others it would seem) would like is for us to sign some top players from this level or even the level below - as identified by the science because they offer exactly what we were lacking last season. It feels instead as though we sign players where the door is already partially open - which again suggests it's sometimes about ease rather than the right player.

We'll get some right, some wrong - but for me our recruitment feels (at times) as though we're signing the players that we can sign - rather than those that we need.

Yes, we really seem to struggle to sign anyone that doesn't have some sort of past involvement or personal connection to the club. It's been said a million times but we appear to be short of a specialist to handle the process of finalizing deals.

 

[Oxford1996]

I don't understand what point you're making - do you think Sheff Wed made an offer for Joseph as some kind of joke?

They made an enquiry. Weighed it up and pulled out. Knowing for the money wanted there was far better available while we pushed through with it as Karl had admired him for 2 years.

The point I’m making is the spin that we beat Wednesday to KJ is utter B*****s.

 

[tatabanya]

They made an enquiry. Weighed it up and pulled out. Knowing for the money wanted there was far better available while we pushed through with it as Karl had admired him for 2 years.

The point I’m making is the spin that we beat Wednesday to KJ is utter B*****s.

But it isn't? They made an offer and he chose us. You wanting that not to be the case doesn't change it.

 

[Oxymoron]

We’re suffering way too many muscle injuries, and long term injuries for it to be anything but poor recruitment and poor fitness training.

It’s bordering on being amateurish

Isn't Chris Neville head of fitness - one of the most experienced people in the business, having worked with PL teams, the national team and overseas.

I'm sure if you dropped him a line to let him know where he's going wrong, he could easily rejig all his routines and turn it around......

 

[Swaby39]

I don't think the issue is with Gavin Whyte per se - it's the reverting to type (signing the same players with previous connections).
It's ok if the odd individual stands out - but the fact that we keep doing it suggests we're not casting our net wide enough (although I accept Yanic was pretty wide). The fact we tried to re-sign Holland would add further weight to this argument - and he was poor last season.

What I (and plenty of others it would seem) would like is for us to sign some top players from this level or even the level below - as identified by the science because they offer exactly what we were lacking last season. It feels instead as though we sign players where the door is already partially open - which again suggests it's sometimes about ease rather than the right player.

We'll get some right, some wrong - but for me our recruitment feels (at times) as though we're signing the players that we can sign - rather than those that we need.

I definitely see the point with Holland - that's a better example for where it does feel wrong/lazy/short-sighted and I know there have been others. I wouldn't have lept out my seat for Holland's permanent signature.

We do have a habit of going over old ground but in some case I think it's justified and Whyte is one. When he's not brilliant, he's at least not letting us down. Not suggesting him joining will turn the tide all of a sudden but I just think we're doing it down a bit too much - as we have with a lot of the others. It's a very good signing.

 

[Topper Haines]

They made an enquiry. Weighed it up and pulled out. Knowing for the money wanted there was far better available while we pushed through with it as Karl had admired him for 2 years.

The point I’m making is the spin that we beat Wednesday to KJ is utter B*****s.

How do you know that? That's a genuine question.

 

[werthersoriginal]

Isn't Chris Neville head of fitness - one of the most experienced people in the business, having worked with PL teams, the national team and overseas.

I'm sure if you dropped him a line to let him know where he's going wrong, he could easily rejig all his routines and turn it around......

No, it's just Karl shouting at them and telling them to run up and down the pitch, chased by Amy Cranston with a stick. No wonder they get knee knacks!!

 

[Oxford1996]

How do you know that? That's a genuine question.

I’m Darren Moore.

 

[Scotchegg]

Yeah I’m sure they’re devastated Karl was such a massive pull so they went and got someone else….

https://twitter.com/x/status/1561669515909517313

Let me get this straight so we can all understand your point.

AH - players don't want to play for KR
Forum - Joseph seemed pretty happy to be here.
AH - well he had no where else to go
Forum - Sheff Wed?
AH - no, they didn't want him
Forum - but they were in for him?
AH - no, they've got too many strikers anyway.
Forum - so why were they looking at him?
AH - that doesn't matter, and anyway Joseph is on too much money!
Forum - says who?
AH - Mr Integrity himself, Joey Barton! We out bid the likes of Bristol Rovers for him!
Forum - Is that a bad thing? (And how much do you or Joey think Championship strikers cost in wages?!)
AH - Haha, look I told you I was right, Sheff Wed have brought a different player in on a permanent contract costing far more that Joseph would have cost to be their 4th/5th choice striker! Doesn't Robinson look an idiot now!!
Forum - ???