General 19/09/2023 - OCC Cabinet Meeting

[GRB]

One thing I've been wondering throughout the course of the day is this:

Middleton -v- McWilliams

Who would win?

McWilliams in the first round.

 

[OX14]

A leaseholder is simply someone that owns a lease

But a leasehold flat you purchase at cost say for instance £150k and then pay a yearly service charge on the building. It's not the same as renting a flat.

 

[Paul Cannell]

I was harping on about the leasehold vs freehold issue a week or so ago. I was concerned that the club could be hung out to dry for a second time, despite the current good intentions of the ownership group if a freehold arrangement had been agreed. Ultimately, a land owner will get what they want eventually and in the meantime, could make life extremely difficult for the tenant (sound familiar?).

I mentioned at the time that we require security of tenure on the new site, in perpetuity. If a leasehold agreement can be agreed at a favourable rent (peppercorn would be terrific), the football club will be without doubt, securing it's future.

Quite. Unless I'm mistaken the holder of the lease freeholder (i.e. owner of the leased property, ie the CC) would have to agree to any covenant being altered or removed whereas they couldn't prevent a covenant being changed if some other party owned the freehold of the property.

Edit: oops sorry. f*****g hell

 

[unification]

One thing I've been wondering throughout the course of the day is this:

Middleton -v- McWilliams

Who would win?

In what competition?

 

[bashamwonderland]

Quite. Unless I'm mistaken the holder of the lease (the CC) would have to agree to any covenant being altered or removed whereas they couldn't prevent a covenant being changed if some other party held the lease.

Yes - although the "other party" would be the freeholder in those circumstances. Same concept though.

 

[LowerSouth]

Can’t get back on to stream

 

[Yellows1]

The freeholder owns the land the leaseholder leases it and normally pays ground rent and maintenance

 

[bashamwonderland]

In what competition?

Now that really is the question...

 

[Chippy]

Bloody hell this is a long 5 minutes

We’re into Fergie time

 

[Oxenford]

McWilliams in the first round.

Glasgow kiss...all over!

 

[GRB]

McIvor has cut the power and has the building surrounded.

 

[Paul Cannell]

Yes - although the "other party" would be the freeholder in those circumstances. Same concept though.

Yes. Had the wrong end of the stick. sorry

 

[Northstandboy]

Why do I have a bad feeling that there is off meeting arguments about the decision!?

 

[bashamwonderland]

McIvor has cut the power and has the building surrounded.

Middleton faking a heart attack in the aisle

 

[behindthegoal]

That's it then, all over
Anyone miss it?

 

[ZeroTheHero]

Encouraging that they are discussing the terms under which we will be offered the land rather than *whether* we will be. Also kudos to the councillors who are determined to get this done today rather than finding another reason to delay things.

 

[SwissYellow]

Have they all been kidnapped by McIvor?

 

[bazzer9461]

This a bit concerning a rewording Liz Leffman said would take 5 mins could this be councillors changing and changing it to get what they want?

 

[Fanatica]

If you think this is painful, just wait until planning. It's going to be absolutely gruelling. 10 x worse.

Even if the club do everything the council ask, it could still be turned down because it's green belt.

 

[Paul Cannell]

Middleton faking a heart attack in the aisle

Oh. Like in High Society? A wedding would be the perfect solution.

Volunteers?