Hackney Jack
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Agreed with this. Maybe the poster needs to watch the videos of the killing, and also read what previous the murderer has...Seriously? You really have to ask?
Agreed with this. Maybe the poster needs to watch the videos of the killing, and also read what previous the murderer has...Seriously? You really have to ask?
But that's not it.Valid question TBH.
Black person kills other black person - nothing.
White policeman kills black person - chaos.
"Almost half of murder victims and murder suspects in the capital are young black men - way out of proportion to London's population, in which 13% are black. "
'This war won't end': London gang murders on the rise
A Sky News investigation has uncovered the deadly impact gang warfare is having on young lives in the capital.news.sky.com
Black lives matter though?
I actually they are closely interlinked and the attitudes of a small minority of police are borne from dealing with the gang violence and the impacts it has on communities. It's not right, but I guess that is a small part of a more complex reality.But that's not it.
If a white policeman kills a black person or a white person or any person at all, then they have to be investigated properly - no matter the colour of the person who has died. The perception is that the white policeman in this case was NOT investigated and prosecuted BECAUSE the victim was black. And that has seemingly confirmed the idea many people have that many American police forces are endemically racist.
I'd like to think that all of the murders in London are investigated as far as they can be, whatever the colour of the victim's skin - those statistics are awful however, and shows how much gang/drug violence there is in some parts of our own capital city. It's a different problem to the above though.
Does the manner in which a murder is committed create a different attitude?Agreed with this. Maybe the poster needs to watch the videos of the killing, and also read what previous the murderer has...
Prior to recent events I would have argued that ALL lives matter and that any suggestion otherwise was simply playing the race card. However, the more I've seen of things happening in America, and reading the experiences of ethnic minorities both in the US and the UK I now believe that racism still exists in all aspects of society.
The vast majority of ethnic minorities in the UK live in the poorest communities, with the worst schools and limited opportunities to escape from this. Role models outside of sport and music are rare, and many families are broken.
A far greater proportion of those from these backgrounds end up in prison. People aren't born bad, so the environments they grow up in must contribute to the lifestyles people lead.
For too long, we see the actions of our ethnic minorities without taking any responsibility for what has created divisions. Tony Blair famously said "Tough on Crime, Tough on the Causes of Crime" but did absolutely nothing to address these issues.
Maybe it's time we took seriously the idea that Black Lives Matter, and accept that even in the 21st century the colour of your skin dramatically affects the opportunities open to you.
You do realise how completely irrelevant that comment is? The Floyd incident is the latest example of white (police) on black (citizens) brutality. It was a racist incident. Lee Rigby's murder was by Islamic extremists. Colour of skin was irrelevant. It was not a racist incident.But at the same time, I don’t recall black people going around saying White lives matter, when Lee Rigby was butchered in broad daylight.
The Rigby incident was the latest example of Black (religious fanatic) on White (citizens) brutality. It was a racist incident. George Floyd`s murder was by law enforcement extremists. Colour of skin was irrelevant. It was not a racist incident
You have no idea whether that's true or not. He was certainly selected because he was a British soldier. Where's your evidence that he was selected for being a white British soldier? The uniform was the target. Neither of us has any idea whether his colour was a contributory factor or not. You do yourself a disservice for suggesting it was.How easy.............. he was selected because he was a White, British soldier. That is racism or they would have waited for a black soldier.
Racism goes both ways.
You do realise how completely irrelevant that comment is? The Floyd incident is the latest example of white (police) on black (citizens) brutality. It was a racist incident. Lee Rigby's murder was by Islamic extremists. Colour of skin was irrelevant. It was not a racist incident.
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. But that's all it is - an opinion rather than a fact. He was definitely targeted for being a soldier. No-one knows whether he was targeted for being white. The killers have never said that was the case.I agree with essexyellows that Lee Rigby was targeted not only by uniform, but because he was white too.
You have no idea whether that's true or not. He was certainly selected because he was a British soldier. Where's your evidence that he was selected for being a white British soldier? The uniform was the target. Neither of us has any idea whether his colour was a contributory factor or not. You do yourself a disservice for suggesting it was.
Racism goes both ways and is always wrong. THere's no evidence that the Rigby killing was racist.