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[MC Yellow]

with the excepetion of thhe furlough scheme- (though they could and should have done better with the Self employed IMO)

I think the self employed scheme has been incredibly generous and supportive.

Unless you are referring to those that fell through the cracks... small owner managed limited company‘s for example, who I agree do seem to have been treated harshly.

 

[greatunclekip]

I work for a company very heavily involved in medical research and scientific publishing and have taken the opportunity today to speak to 4 seperate individuals well regarded in that field and who have been close to the latest research articles.

The range of responses (offered in a personal capacity) as to the sensibility of loosening lockdown at this point ranged between "highly naive" to "absolutely mad'.

Personally, i agree. 3 more weeks gives us far more headroom. We are still in a very shitty place.

 

[YellowTaxi]

the director of the Wellcome Trust

https://twitter.com/x/status/1266472137281462275

 

[moomooland]

In 1968 80,000 people died in the UK of Hong Kong flu.
Nothing closed down and life went on as normal.
I suppose we were a bit tougher back then.

 

[werthersoriginal]

In 1968 80,000 people died in the UK of Hong Kong flu.
Nothing closed down and life went on as normal.
I suppose we were a bit tougher back then.

Apart from the people who died, they can’t have been all that tough. And some of those people in care homes aren’t very tough, have you seen them? I’ve seen some ridiculously stupid comments on here but yours is right up there

 

[MJB]

Apart from the people who died, they can’t have been all that tough. And some of those people in care homes aren’t very tough, have you seen them? I’ve seen some ridiculously stupid comments on here but yours is right up there

Yep, an absolute whopper right there.

 

[YellowTaxi]

there are a lot of stupid comments out there.

and a lot of responses

[TWEET]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1266438399688392704

 

[Scotchegg]

We've been through an horrendous few months and lost far too many people, but that doesn't mean that we can't be hopeful that things are improving, or thankful that things weren't even worse.

None of that undermines the tremendous loses so many have experienced, or devalues those who are continuing to be affected.

 

[YellowTaxi]

hero

In mid-February, we in Germany were able to perform routine tests for SARS-CoV-2 at a time when hardly any other country could do so. Around the time of Carnival, we had our first positive test from someone who had not been travelling prior to infection. That was in the state of Baden-Württemberg. Nobody knew where he had become infected. At that point it was clear: The virus was already spreading unnoticed in Germany.

DER SPIEGEL: Wouldn't that have become obvious at some point anyway?
Drosten: Yes, but only a month later when the dead started piling up as they did in Italy, Spain and Britain. That's how long it takes from infection to death in the intensive care unit. And we - and by that, I mean, my laboratory – managed to use that month to give Germany a head start. That is why we find ourselves in such a good position today. If we hadn't been able to perform tests so early, if we scientists had not informed the politicians, then I think that we in Germany would have seen 50,000 to 100,000 more fatalities.

 

[QR]

there are a lot of stupid comments out there.

and a lot of responses

[TWEET]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1266438399688392704

Messed up or delivered up?

 

[m]

In 1968 80,000 people died in the UK of Hong Kong flu.
Nothing closed down and life went on as normal.
I suppose we were a bit tougher back then.

Yeah, tougher:

 

[YellowTaxi]

Deaths yesterday across Europe:
Spain 2
Italy 87
Germany 24
France 52
Turkey 28
Belgium 42
Sweden 84
Portugal 14
Ireland 6
Poland 13
Romania 13
Hungary 8
Netherlands 28


UK ... 324

 

[YellowTaxi]

Is Johnson launching a big showy publicity event to distract from the disaster that has been Cummings regardless of the consequences?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1266604715787386880

It’s not as if he has a track record of that kind of behaviour, is it?

 

[Sarge]

Is Johnson launching a big showy publicity event to distract from the disaster that has been Cummings regardless of the consequences?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1266604715787386880

It’s not as if he has a track record of that kind of behaviour, is it?

highly likely someone on yf will trace it, if he does

 

[YellowTaxi]

Unlikely that the government scheme will manage it
“We’re not highly trained- we’ve been sitting around doing nothing”

 

[radicalox]

Deaths yesterday across Europe:
Spain 2
Italy 87
Germany 24
France 52
Turkey 28
Belgium 42
Sweden 84
Portugal 14
Ireland 6
Poland 13
Romania 13
Hungary 8
Netherlands 28


UK ... 324

Graph of European countries with highest death tolls. Showing 7 day rolling average of deaths per million population (So controlled for population).

UK peak started later, which is one of the reasons we haven't seen the level of reduction of some other European countries yet. Thankfully appears the rate of decrease seems to be similar to those countries you list now at very low death rates.

 

[YellowTaxi]

So do you think it’s time to relax lockdown?

 

[horseman]

I think the self employed scheme has been incredibly generous and supportive.

Unless you are referring to those that fell through the cracks... small owner managed limited company‘s for example, who I agree do seem to have been treated harshly.

In the words of dear old Basil Fawlty Don't mention Horse Racing i mentioned it once and i didn't get away with it........pushed to the back of the queue by the Bank with not even a conversation or application until July 6th....Meanwhile 80% of contracts have gone.....All because they see you as like something at the bottom of their shoe....They don't want your Business so they pop you in a 2nd Personal Account rather than a proper Business account and now it's tut tut you should not be running a Business through a Personal Account..
Perhaps when i was divorced and my child remained living with me i should have just sat on my jacksie and the welfare system.

Off now to check the slots and casinos,then there's online Poker tonight not forgetting American/Australian horse racing through the small hours followed by Hong Kong....After all that's the Profile the stereotype Must be a Compulsive Gambler and all that.

What is not generally known is that if you are a sole trader operating through a personal account The Government schemes apply to you also..The Banks are supposed to help and the directive from The Government is that anyone applying for one of the schemes must not be forced by the Banks to open a Business Account...The Bank will open a Feeder account for the funds to go in, some may expect you to have all transactions through that account but you can also have funds transferred to a personal account of your choice.

 

[Marked Ox]

Polls show Johnson has lost the country â he may never get it back | TheArticle

Boris Johnson is in a wretched place. If he isn’t feeling terrible about the way the pandemic drama is playing out, h...

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An interesting article by Peter Kelner (regular on BBC Election coverage and Journalist etc) about the possible impact of the Dominic Cummings affair for Johnson.

 

[TL@69]

DC just had to admit having made an error of judgement & apologised.
He BJ would have retained credibility & we could have moved on.
But no, "error. Mistake. Sorry " just not in their vocabulary.
Politicians can't see that joe public actually have respect for people who own up to mistakes.