Transfer News Transfer targets summer 2019

[horseman]

The puzzler has to be that the bosses have seen how hard it is to get deals done and the costs involved yet we appear to be happy to once more let another club "steal" one of our players despite rhetoric to the contrary

 

[horseman]

The one good thing about this is it again raises our profile with higher clubs when it comes to treating players right and giving them valuable game time, thus enabling them get those players a move away ( Sinclair, Garbutt, Browne ) to a decent standard and recouping a % of a few.

This is so important for clubs like us and it is the model we need to ( and are ) getting and going back too.

Once PL clubs fully finish their overseas tours the first team squads will be pretty much finalised allowing for the younger players who’ve been used to supplement the seniors on tour to move away on half / full season loans.

We will be high up that list once it moves away from the championship so even if it does comes to loans, they will be of players with very good credentials and also players who will be ready to go from the off.

yes let's keep training em for others to benefit from as it's so easy to build a squad these days !!!!

Glorified feeder club no thanks

 

[beyondthefourth]

Ala Danny Rose.

Don’t completely rule of Elechi from the ‘18’s either. He’s very well thought of by the club.

I keep hearing how we're not following the Lundstram/Ledson method of getting young players from PL academies.

Berkoe came through the Chelsea system, Elechie came from United.

We're following the same method, we're just starting earlier and saving a bit of money while doing so.

 

[Deleted member 142]

yes let's keep training em for others to benefit from as it's so easy to build a squad these days !!!!

Glorified feeder club no thanks

The model is only attractive if we benefit. Loans with no chance of a financial benefit are vastly inferior.

 

[yellowbow]

Also in Robinson, bigger clubs know they have a manger who can be trusted to look after their players on and off the pitch. Again something that’s very important not only to a youngest joining but also to that players parent club.

I do understand what you’re saying but why don’t we just go the ‘whole hog’ then and just become a feeder club for a Prem team? I’m all for getting young loanees in to bolster the squad but we do need to have a squad made up mainly of our own players so we get our own strong identity

 

[ZeroTheHero]

Relying on loanees (and selling your best young players at the drop of a hat, seemingly) is a way to absolutely ensure that this transfer window debacle is repeated year after year.

 

[Whingit]

Relying on loanees (and selling your best young players at the drop of a hat, seemingly) is a way to absolutely ensure that this transfer window debacle is repeated year after year.

Also ensures the club survives year after year.

 

[ubermeistervonmeat]

These last two posts emphasise our perennial problem - both make fair points but clearly both cannot run together very easily - so seriously what do we do ?

 

[DavidB]

Hylton, McAleny, and Jake Wright.

Some people with disagree, and say it lacks ambition, and is clinging to past memories etc, and whilst I agree these can't be the calibre of player that we aspire to moving forward, given our current predicament, and given the fact that there's only one week until the season starts, and we're clearly struggling to fill these key positions, which even KR is admitting to now, and the fact that we could genuinely succeed in getting these players, it wouldn't be a bad idea.

These players could easily go down to a top league 2 club, and be key first team players, on half decent wages, but they could still do a very good job for any league one side, and could be key squad players, on much better wages, which surely would be an attractive option to them at this stage in their careers.

Getting these three in, could really fill out the squad with genuine, experienced senior quality, and then we'd have the rest of the loan window, to try to find a higher calibre CB and ST on season long loans.

Never gonna happen though is it, so don't know why I'm bothering!

These last two posts emphasise our perennial problem - both make fair points but clearly both cannot run together very easily - so seriously what do we do ?

suck it up or change allegiance

 

[Manorlounger]

Nah. Fucked off with the whole lot.

How many times are we going to be told that we have the finance to do the business (within the fair play constraints) and that we don't need to sell our talent and then we do. And to add insult to injury can't find one player to replace them or even fill the f*****g gaps we have already.

Positivity bus, f**k off.

Another season of wondering if we will survive or get relegated. Another season of driving 80 miles home from Grenoble Road having been stuffed again by some tin pot s**t who can recruit and retain players.
What is really going on???

 

[Roge]

These last two posts emphasise our perennial problem - both make fair points but clearly both cannot run together very easily - so seriously what do we do ?

Unfortunately as previous posters have pointed out in other threads, with an operating loss of £2,024,283 and net liabilities of minus £10,282,628 at the 30th June 2018 I am not sure what else can be done. Presumably any finance from directors will be in the form of loans increasing the debt. The problems at Bury and Bolton just highlight the challenges. It looks like we have to accept this model to survive.

 

[Yellowken]

Ok, first post of the Summer, but can any of use say that after the Luton game that we'd be one week away from the start of the season with huge gaps in the team. Seriously?

 

[Manorlounger]

These last two posts emphasise our perennial problem - both make fair points but clearly both cannot run together very easily - so seriously what do we do ?

Unfortunately as previous posters have pointed out in other threads, with an operating loss of £2,024,283 and net liabilities of minus £10,282,628 at the 30th June 2018 I am not sure what else can be done. Presumably any finance from directors will be in the form of loans increasing the debt. The problems at Bury and Bolton just highlight the challenges. It looks like we have to accept this model to survive.

You can accept the model without being made to look foolish.

Retain some integrity towards those fans who shell out hard earned money season after season to watch. Those same fans who live for the club and want success. Those same fans who, season after season, have dreams of the next step. Those fans who were ecstatic after winning promotion to league 1. (FFS I can remember playing in the old 1st Division)

Find talent, nurture that talent and sure, sell on but, at least have the integrity to give those fans some f*****g entertainment in between. The last two seasons and probably this one coming, have been s**t.

 

[Bigfella72]

Which makes the non-signing of Jon Guthrie a little bit mystifying.

Earlier in the thread it said he wanted to high a wage

 

[Whingit]

These last two posts emphasise our perennial problem - both make fair points but clearly both cannot run together very easily - so seriously what do we do ?

Unfortunately as previous posters have pointed out in other threads, with an operating loss of £2,024,283 and net liabilities of minus £10,282,628 at the 30th June 2018 I am not sure what else can be done. Presumably any finance from directors will be in the form of loans increasing the debt. The problems at Bury and Bolton just highlight the challenges. It looks like we have to accept this model to survive.

It's not even as if it's a difficult thing to accept. The model mean exciting players who are actually good at football play for the club, whereas the alternative is having a squad of journeymen playing hoof ball every week just to get the job done.

 

[ubermeistervonmeat]

suck it up or change allegiance

can't change allegiance so stuck with suck it up I guess - which sucks too

 

[yellowbow]

These last two posts emphasise our perennial problem - both make fair points but clearly both cannot run together very easily - so seriously what do we do ?

Unfortunately as previous posters have pointed out in other threads, with an operating loss of £2,024,283 and net liabilities of minus £10,282,628 at the 30th June 2018 I am not sure what else can be done. Presumably any finance from directors will be in the form of loans increasing the debt. The problems at Bury and Bolton just highlight the challenges. It looks like we have to accept this model to survive.

I agree 100%. So maybe it’s time for the owners and manager to stop talking B*****s about the championship and wow signings, own up to the mess we’re in and explain their strategic plan on how we plan to see our way through it. The worst thing a club owner can do is try and treat the supporters as idiots, they soon see through it. I’d much rather be told the truth and, more importantly what the solution is, rather than fairy tales. If they told us things were going to be tight for a year or two and we need to try and stabilise as a league 1 club during that time if we can while we seek a solution to the stadium issues, I’d have a lot more faith in them all.

 

[Grumpy Git]

Browne signing for Middlesbrough on a 4 year deal. Can’t blame him for that.

 

[ubermeistervonmeat]

I agree 100%. So maybe it’s time for the owners and manager to stop talking B*****s about the championship and wow signings, own up to the mess we’re in and explain their strategic plan on how we plan to see our way through it. The worst thing a club owner can do is try and treat the supporters as idiots, they soon see through it. I’d much rather be told the truth and, more importantly what the solution is, rather than fairy tales. If they told us things were going to be tight for a year or two and we need to try and stabilise as a league 1 club during that time if we can while we seek a solution to the stadium issues, I’d have a lot more faith in them all.

Spot on but sadly I imagine Tiger and his buddies (if they do want success here) would not want to be patient themselves

 

[Oufcrealist]

Anyone of you ITKers confirm or not the rumour I heard that we've lost out on another striker we were willing to pay money for to Salford City?

You mean Luke Armstrong?