bazzer9461
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The government should seize Stamford Bridge before he sells itβ¦..but they wont
The government should seize Stamford Bridge before he sells itβ¦..but they wont
Do we still make aid payments to India? If so, they cease with immediate effect. They obviously value Russia's assistance more than our generosity.
I'm pretty sure you can't sell a frozen asset so I'm guessing Abramovich's assets havenβt been frozen. You have to ask 'why not?'.
No but for now we should assume every rich Russian who is or who has been close to Putin is. ie Abramovich.Trying to sell before it gets frozen?
Aside from that should we presume every rich Russian is a "bad" Russian?
I should think so.View attachment 8364Russia & Belarus removed from Paralympics
Athletes from Russia and Belarus will not be allowed to compete at the 2022 Winter Paralympics in Beijing, the International Paralympic Committee says.www.bbc.co.uk
Nothing should be off the table IMO. Was taken back by India not condemning Russia.
No but for now we should assume every rich Russian who is or who has been close to Putin is. ie Abramovich.
Surely we can agree on that?
I take the view it has nothing to do with whether they are inherently bad people, but more that they have the contacts and ability to influence Putin, make their lives difficult and try and get them to pressure Putin to step back so they can get back to floating around the world in stupendously expensive boats!Tricky one, whilst I mostly agree that we should be making life very uncomfortable for known/financially linked associates, we also need to consider that "rich people" across the world all try and get close to leaders for their own benefit rather than being inherently "bad" people.
The joys of capitalism eh?
Come on, we're only talking about freezing their assets. As soon as they can show in a transparent and auditable way they haven't been cozying up to Putin they can be unfrozen.Tricky one, whilst I mostly agree that we should be making life very uncomfortable for known/financially linked associates, we also need to consider that "rich people" across the world all try and get close to leaders for their own benefit rather than being inherently "bad" people.
The joys of capitalism eh?
I donβt think anyone is suggesting theyβre being sanctioned for being in some way morally βbadβ people. Itβs because theyβre close to Putin, who is in charge of this invasion and could stop it any time that he likes.Tricky one, whilst I mostly agree that we should be making life very uncomfortable for known/financially linked associates, we also need to consider that "rich people" across the world all try and get close to leaders for their own benefit rather than being inherently "bad" people.
The joys of capitalism eh?
Come on, we're only talking about freezing their assets. As soon as they can show in a transparent and auditable way they haven't been cozying up to Putin they can be unfrozen.
Tbf before the break up of the USSR there were no rich Russians, most of these Oligarchs got rich on the break up of the USSR.Trying to sell before it gets frozen?
Aside from that should we presume every rich Russian is a "bad" Russian?
The 'how' isn't our problem. It's the problem of the Oligarchs.Yep agree with that.
Although the "how" might be intrinsically difficult as seen with some of the unexplained wealth orders applied to various "baddies
Do you reckon the government warned Abramovich they would seize his assets unless he sold up and left...maybe they didn't want the inevitable sh*t that would come with seizing a football club etc...Not saying it's right btw!
Yep that's fair!Or maybe it was a favour for one of the boys ?
No idea if or how much Abramovich is involved in this but one day, when all of this settles down, there is going
to be a discussion on here about our goverment and Russian money.
read all about it .... in this weeks Private EyeOr maybe it was a favour for one of the boys ?
No idea if or how much Abramovich is involved in this but one day, when all of this settles down, there is going
to be a discussion on here about our goverment and Russian money.
India and Russia signed a bunch of deals in December including investment in India for steel, coal, shipbuilding, and energy supply, plus India getting S-400 missiles.Nothing should be off the table IMO. Was taken back by India not condemning Russia.