General MK at home followed by Covid-19

[ZeroTheHero]

"In the study published Feb. 18 in the China CDC Weekly, researchers found a death rate from COVID-19 to be around 2.3% in mainland China. Another study of about 1,100 hospitalized patients in China, published Feb. 28 in the New England Journal of Medicine, found that the overall death rate was slightly lower, around 1.4%.

Still, the death rate for COVID-19 appears to vary by location and an individual's age, among other factors. For instance, in Hubei Province, the epicenter of the outbreak, the death rate reached 2.9%; in other provinces of China, that rate was just 0.4%, according to the China CDC Weekly study. In addition, older adults have been hit the hardest. The death rate soars to 14.8% in those 80 and older; among those ages 70 to 79, the COVID-19 death rate in China seems to be about 8%; it’s 3.6% for those ages 60 to 69; 1.3% for 50 to 59; 0.4% for the age group 40 to 49; and just 0.2% for people ages 10 to 39. No deaths in children under 9 have been reported.

Though the death rate for COVID-19 is unclear, most research suggests it is higher than that of the seasonal flu."

(https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html)

Lies, damm lies and statistics, but I haven't seen an over all death rate of 5% for those infected in the general population as a whole mentioned anywhere. Where did that stat come from?

Note that at least some stats in the extract above are for 'hospitalized' patients - in other words they have to be pretty ill to start with. But the statistics seem pretty spotty, with that not always being specified, and of course many people have the virus with only very minor symptoms so they may well be way out as they won't be included in the statistics as they probably never saw a doctor.

 

[makv]

Can you imagine how staggeringly anticlimactic it would be to win promotion on the final day of the season against Bolton in front of an empty stadium? It would be really weird - players celebrating with a trophy and podium in the centre circle with literally only the coaching staff there to see it.

If stadiums were closed for a few games, OUFC would surely be pretty fucked financially. Still have to pay rent on the stadium with none of the ticket sales to offset it. I imagine they would have to refund some season tickets too: lets say all further games from this weekend are to be played behind closed doors - that's 5 home games that ST holders have paid for and would be missing, which is over 20% of games they have already paid for! Or is that a risk you take when you purchase a ST (not a holder myself)?

Coronavirus: Financial impact of measures on EFL clubs could be 'devastating'

Coronavirus costs could be 'devastating' for EFL clubs

What is the financial cost for lower-league clubs of playing games without crowds and should that worry even be weighed against health concerns?

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[RyanioBirdio]

Japan have shown us all how to do it. Act early, basically go into self-isolation before it has a chance to do anything, cut it off at the knee.

 

[Yellow River]

Coronavirus: Financial impact of measures on EFL clubs could be 'devastating'

Coronavirus costs could be 'devastating' for EFL clubs

What is the financial cost for lower-league clubs of playing games without crowds and should that worry even be weighed against health concerns?

www.bbc.co.uk

Luckily we cashed in on Baptiste & Fosu when we did.....

 

[Junior_1]

Games in France to be played behind closed doors.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1237394318085636096

 

[werthersoriginal]

I rather pathetically hope we can see the season out. I don’t expect things like Glastonbury, the Euros, or the Olympics will go ahead and we may have to do without our holidays- it would be worth it to slow the virus down

 

[maidenheadox]

Speaking to BBC Breakfast, deputy chief medical officer Jenny Harries insisted that outdoor events are ”relatively safe” because the chances of being infected are less significant than when indoors.

“The virus won't survive very long outside,“ she said. “It will lose its viability to transmit disease, and so many outdoor events particularly are relatively safe."

Cheltenham is going ahead right now with a quarter of a million people attending.

 

[Oufcrealist]

"In the study published Feb. 18 in the China CDC Weekly, researchers found a death rate from COVID-19 to be around 2.3% in mainland China. Another study of about 1,100 hospitalized patients in China, published Feb. 28 in the New England Journal of Medicine, found that the overall death rate was slightly lower, around 1.4%.

Still, the death rate for COVID-19 appears to vary by location and an individual's age, among other factors. For instance, in Hubei Province, the epicenter of the outbreak, the death rate reached 2.9%; in other provinces of China, that rate was just 0.4%, according to the China CDC Weekly study. In addition, older adults have been hit the hardest. The death rate soars to 14.8% in those 80 and older; among those ages 70 to 79, the COVID-19 death rate in China seems to be about 8%; it’s 3.6% for those ages 60 to 69; 1.3% for 50 to 59; 0.4% for the age group 40 to 49; and just 0.2% for people ages 10 to 39. No deaths in children under 9 have been reported.

Though the death rate for COVID-19 is unclear, most research suggests it is higher than that of the seasonal flu."

(https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html)

Lies, damm lies and statistics, but I haven't seen an over all death rate of 5% for those infected in the general population as a whole mentioned anywhere. Where did that stat come from?

Note that at least some stats in the extract above are for 'hospitalized' patients - in other words they have to be pretty ill to start with. But the statistics seem pretty spotty, with that not always being specified, and of course many people have the virus with only very minor symptoms so they may well be way out as they won't be included in the statistics as they probably never saw a doctor.

Death rates of countries worst affected
Italy 5%
Iran 3.6%
China 3.8%
South Korea 0.7%
Japan's is also very low, under 1%
Globally 3.4%
S.K and Japan acted very quickly to keep numbers down. The most sensible way to go.
Also saw yesterday that Virologists have a theory that more people in Italy are getting secondary bacterial infections causing pneumonia and consequently more deaths. They are speeding up research into which bacteria they are and hopefully an antibiotic is out there.

 

[bazzer9461]

Speaking to BBC Breakfast, deputy chief medical officer Jenny Harries insisted that outdoor events are ”relatively safe” because the chances of being infected are less significant than when indoors.

“The virus won't survive very long outside,“ she said. “It will lose its viability to transmit disease, and so many outdoor events particularly are relatively safe."

Cheltenham is going ahead right now with a quarter of a million people attending.

So she is saying you’re likely to be infected when indoors rather than outdoors? Could be one of those comments made that will cause her to resign

 

[maidenheadox]

So she is saying you’re likely to be infected when indoors rather than outdoors? Could be one of those comments made that will cause her to resign

She is saying you are more likely to be infected when indoors rather than outdoors, which is true.

 

[Peterdev]

North Korea is 0.0%
They put carriers to sleep

 

[holdsteady]

Let’s just kill everyone, prevention is better than cure.

 

[tonyw]

We get a refund for the missed Bury game when renewing our season ticket for 2020/21. So I would image any other cancelled games would have to be refunded as well.

If COVID-19 does force matches to be played behind closed doors, then I think the club would be justified in not refunding season ticket holders. It's clearly an event that was outside of the club's control.
But if that's their tack, they should also go ahead and provide free access to iFollow for those same season ticket holders, and make the 3pm Saturday games available that way.

As has been said, if six weeks of matches do have to be played without fans, and EFL clubs are expected to refund all season ticket holders - then we'll probably survive, but there's several clubs on the edge that might not.

Premiership teams will be fine though. I read somewhere that Bournemouth now get only 4% of their income from matchdays. Four frickin' percent.

 

[bazzer9461]

She is saying you are more likely to be infected when indoors rather than outdoors, which is true.

So someon goes to an outdoor event with the corona virus and you are less likely to catch it?

 

[holdsteady]

So someon goes to an outdoor event with the corona virus and you are less likely to catch it?

Less likely than if you sit on their lap on an aeroplane baz yes.

 

[Jster]

Studies on Wuhan suggest that the virus was mainly transmitted between family members and in small close gatherings (parties, etc.) rather than at large events, where you really don't tend to interact closely with many people. Arbitrary decisions such as stopping gatherings of over 1000 (say) people doesn't really bear scientific scrutiny. It would just be for show.

 

[Foley]

So she is saying you’re likely to be infected when indoors rather than outdoors? Could be one of those comments made that will cause her to resign

Are you disagreeing with her?
Why?

 

[Thomas/Brock/Jones]

Death rates of countries worst affected
Italy 5%
Iran 3.6%
China 3.8%
South Korea 0.7%
Japan's is also very low, under 1%
Globally 3.4%
S.K and Japan acted very quickly to keep numbers down. The most sensible way to go.
Also saw yesterday that Virologists have a theory that more people in Italy are getting secondary bacterial infections causing pneumonia and consequently more deaths. They are speeding up research into which bacteria they are and hopefully an antibiotic is out there.

Haven't all those killed by this been old or have a pre existing illness though ?

 

[Oufcrealist]

Haven't all those killed by this been old or have a pre existing illness though ?

In the main, yes. A 14.8% probability if you are 80+. If you are below 60 it drops rapidly to below 2%. Kids are almost risk free.
Italy have released new figures today and the death rate has gone up to 6.2. A 1.2 rise in a day.

 

[Manorlounger]

In the main, yes. A 14.8% probability if you are 80+. If you are below 60 it drops rapidly to below 2%. Kids are almost risk free.
Italy have released new figures today and the death rate has gone up to 6.2. A 1.2 rise in a day.

Is that 6.2% of the total population or of those who test positive, is it the percentage of those who develop illness?

You cannot go chucking statistics around without context. It is just scaremongering and irresponsible.