National News ITV leaders debate: Johnson v Corbyn - who won?

Who won the ITV leaders debate?

  • Johnson

    Votes: 11 22.4%

  • Corbyn

    Votes: 22 44.9%

  • No one

    Votes: 16 32.7%
  • Total voters
    49
Boris was Boris, wavered a bit, but generally held up well.
JC came across as expected, was considered and made his points well.
Both will carry out there pledges.
Only one party has a “plan” beyond the first five years .
We all need the manifestos to dig deeper.
 
If by won you mean spoke over the presenter the most about the topics that suited them most and didn't answer the question particularly about their previous misdemeanours then Boris won.
 
Robie said:
If by won you mean spoke over the presenter the most about the topics that suited them most and didn't answer the question particularly about their previous misdemeanours then Boris won.
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Boris spoke over the presenter to finish answering what he was asked.
 
Corbyn probably fared a little better, but these things don’t really mean anything.

Disgusting from the Tories rebranding their press office twitter account as “Fact Check UK” during the debate only to change it back straight after. Another example of the smoke and mirrors, propaganda bullshit that is now used via social media to sway people through downright lies and deception. People should be in jail for what they’re doing to our politics now and yet they’re somehow gaining fans and recruiting soldiers while acting like this. Disgusting.
 
RyanioBirdio said:
Corbyn probably fared a little better, but these things don’t really mean anything.

Disgusting from the Tories rebranding their press office twitter account as “Fact Check UK” during the debate only to change it back straight after. Another example of the smoke and mirrors, propaganda bullshit that is now used via social media to sway people through downright lies and deception. People should be in jail for what they’re doing to our politics now and yet they’re somehow gaining fans and recruiting soldiers while acting like this. Disgusting.
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That rebranding of thier own twitter account as factchecker uk during the debate was ,imo ,a new low ....
inews.co.uk

Conservative HQ pretended to be a fact-checking organisation for the debate

Fact-checking has become a key element of the 2019 general election
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Twitter or any "Social Media"....is 99.9% BS ......................but hey its "instant :poop: :poop: " ...........seems to be how society works these days!

I`ve got better things to do with my life than watch two vastly different personalities on permanent rewind & soundbites.
I`ll wait till the manifesto`s appear rather than worry about some sort of "personality contest".
 
Neither won it and neither lost it. Boris didn't :poop: the bed as was worried about in CCHQ and Corbyn didn't really elevate himself in that debate like Clegg did ages ago. The fact both got laughed at indicated no one won that shoutathon.
 
Gary Baldi said:
Neither won it and neither lost it. Boris didn't :poop: the bed as was worried about in CCHQ and Corbyn didn't really elevate himself in that debate like Clegg did ages ago.
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Wait, what? They invited the Lib Dems to a leaders debate? Now there's an idea...
 
Sheik djibouti said:
Oh and to add to the Factcheck disgrace....YOUGOV have been caught out too:

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Perhaps not all that surprising when you see who the founders are:

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They really are scraping the barrel aren't they?
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I'm sorry this is a little too conspiracy theory for me. You really think (or some to be implying) yougov faked data to show a 2% opinion poll lead about the outcome of a debate? Massive risk, with no gain.I suspect it is far more likely just a time stamp mistake (perhaps the poll was published at 6.50pm and this article replaced that page afterwards for example).

And if you read 5he actual article, it is pretty balanced.
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YouGov snap poll finds viewers split on who won ITV general election debate | YouGov

Snap YouGov poll reveals the winner of the ITV general election debate
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To the majority of people this election is going to be all about brexit. Where the problem lies in my opinion is that brexit should have been sorted out by now then this election would be all about manifestos and trying to sort this country out. Personally I am a leaver and I am pretty miffed that it hasn't happened. If the politicians had voted like there constituents had then it would of been sorted. If labour had a decent leader then this election would of been interesting and I think Boris would struggle, but c'mon does anyone trust JC enough to run the country. I as hell don't. Is Boris the right person? who knows but id trust him over JC any day of the week.
 
Both leaders are very poor, but I'm not sure how you can trust Johnson! He is a proven, repeated, serial liar - and the Conservative Party under him has, even in the last week, been guilty of trying to spread lies through social media. Although apparently (according to Raab) "no one gives a toss about social media cut and thrust" - so that's OK then. Anyone with such a blatant disregard for the truth should not be trusted (whatever your feelings about Brexit).
 
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ZeroTheHero said:
Both leaders are very poor, but I'm not sure how you can trust Johnson! He is a proven, repeated, serial liar - and the Conservative Party under him has, even in the last week, been guilty of trying to spread lies through social media. Although apparently (according to Raab) "no one gives a toss about social media cut and thrust" - so that's OK then. Anyone with such a blatant disregard for the truth should not be trusted (whatever your feelings about Brexit).
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Harold Wilson?
 
ZeroTheHero said:
Both leaders are very poor, but I'm not sure how you can trust Johnson! He is a proven, repeated, serial liar - and the Conservative Party under him has, even in the last week, been guilty of trying to spread lies through social media. Although apparently (according to Raab) "no one gives a toss about social media cut and thrust" - so that's OK then. Anyone with such a blatant disregard for the truth should not be trusted (whatever your feelings about Brexit).
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But that was the point I was making. Brexit is what people are going to vote ? for. Things like education, NHS, police ? etc which usually decide how we are going to vote will be put on the back burner.
 
Pompeyyellows said:
But that was the point I was making. Brexit is what people are going to vote ? for. Things like education, NHS, police ? etc which usually decide how we are going to vote will be put on the back burner.
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I agree. That doesn't mean you should trust Johnson though. You should examine with every utterance with extreme skepticism.
 
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