Nope and the colour of the rosette doesn't matter hence the well-used term 'Tony's cronies'.When will we ever rid the country of croneyvirus?
Nope and the colour of the rosette doesn't matter hence the well-used term 'Tony's cronies'.When will we ever rid the country of croneyvirus?
Blair has a hell of a lot to answer for. Before him there at least seemed to be a basic understanding that if you got caught with your trousers down then you pulled them up and left your resignation on the desk. He and his wingman Campbell changed that and introduced the notion that you can just lie, deny and double down, and carry on as you please. Iraq was the game changer. After that they pretty much gave everybody the ultimate get out of jail free card. No matter what a government does after that they’ll always be able to say, “Come on, it’s hardly Iraq is it?”Nope and the colour of the rosette doesn't matter hence the well-used term 'Tony's cronies'.
Because they own virtually all of the popular media and are able to massage the message as they see fit perhapsBlair has a hell of a lot to answer for. Before him there at least seemed to be a basic understanding that if you got caught with your trousers down then you pulled them up and left your resignation on the desk. He and his wingman Campbell changed that and introduced the notion that you can just lie, deny and double down, and carry on as you please. Iraq was the game changer. After that they pretty much gave everybody the ultimate get out of jail free card. No matter what a government does after that they’ll always be able to say, “Come on, it’s hardly Iraq is it?”
Someone actually put it to Campbell on Question Time (I think) a few years back that he was largely to blame for much of what he was kicking off about at the time. The anger towards politicians, the rise of fake news which ultimately led to situations like Brexit and so on, and he was typically arrogant and dismissive. Which sort of proved their point. Again: lie, deny, double down. Throw in a shrug and a smirk if you’re really up for it.
That said, it doesn’t excuse the toe rags we’ve had to put up with for the last decade, and in particular the last several. I’m extremely curious, though, as to why they’re seemingly coated in Teflon.
I don’t remember The Sun failing to back the winner of any vote since I’ve been alive. When was the last time they backed someone in a general election, or an outcome in a referendum, and their horse lost? Either they’re very good gamblers or they’re the ones crowning the winner. I wouldn’t like to say which.Because they own virtually all of the popular media and are able to massage the message as they see fit perhaps
That again has been going on for decades, but has only got worse (The Sun winning it for Thatcher and then winning it for Blair etc, etc etc ad infinitum).
Last years Murdoch documentary on the BBC brought home (as if we didn't know) how much would be Prime Ministers have courted him - footage of Blair flying to a News International conference in Australia, meetings in Downing Street with Blair and then Cameron (as well as lots of 'unofficial' meetings).I don’t remember The Sun failing to back the winner of any vote since I’ve been alive. When was the last time they backed someone in a general election, or an outcome in a referendum, and their horse lost? Either they’re very good gamblers or they’re the ones crowning the winner. I wouldn’t like to say which.
Still. Defund the BBC. Ban Twitter. I want my news and information exclusively owned and provided by a handful of rich people who can fit around a dinner table. Like any sane, rational person would.
Sounds a bit like CatholicismI don’t remember The Sun failing to back the winner of any vote since I’ve been alive. When was the last time they backed someone in a general election, or an outcome in a referendum, and their horse lost? Either they’re very good gamblers or they’re the ones crowning the winner. I wouldn’t like to say which.
Still. Defund the BBC. Ban Twitter. I want my news and information exclusively owned and provided by a handful of rich people who can fit around a dinner table. Like any sane, rational person would.
Nope and the colour of the rosette doesn't matter hence the well-used term 'Tony's cronies'.
If you were sane and rational you would not be inviting rich people to your dinner table. We are in the midst of a pandemic, or have you not heard?I don’t remember The Sun failing to back the winner of any vote since I’ve been alive. When was the last time they backed someone in a general election, or an outcome in a referendum, and their horse lost? Either they’re very good gamblers or they’re the ones crowning the winner. I wouldn’t like to say which.
Still. Defund the BBC. Ban Twitter. I want my news and information exclusively owned and provided by a handful of rich people who can fit around a dinner table. Like any sane, rational person would.
If it's outside and there are only 6 of you....is that OKIf you were sane and rational you would not be inviting rich people to your dinner table. We are in the midst of a pandemic, or have you not heard?
I’ve put it on the patio and they’re all coming in the side gate. You’ll never take me down.If you were sane and rational you would not be inviting rich people to your dinner table. We are in the midst of a pandemic, or have you not heard?
Sadly, I think to many people, the colour of the rosette does matter.Worth a thread of it`s own as it`s mostly former folk using their "influence".
Boris appears to be distancing himself....
Johnson refuses to back David Cameron over Greensill lobbying scandal
Boris Johnson has refused to back David Cameron in the Greensill row, saying that the inquiry into lobbying by the collapsed finance company will have “carte blwww.thetimes.co.uk
Sunak seems ahead of the game releasing contacts from Cameron.
Is this really unusual or just how politics, irrespective of rosette colour, "works" ?
I’m not sure it’s primarily the colour of the rosette that wrangles people about these two.Sadly, I think to many people, the colour of the rosette does matter.
It’s probably fair to say that some of the people who seem fairly relaxed about this would be less so if the MPs concerned were Diane Abbot and Sadiq Khan
Sadly, I think to many people, the colour of the rosette does matter.
It’s probably fair to say that some of the people who seem fairly relaxed about this would be less so if the MPs concerned were Diane Abbot and Sadiq Khan
This isn't a contest to see who worse, the current government or Crony Blair, it's about what's right and wrong, moral, immoral etc.Didn`t Blair give F1 an exemption from the tobacco advertising ban after little Bernie applied "influence"?
Two Labour peers got suspended for "cash for amending a bill"?
Source: https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-scandals-have-there-been-in-british-politics
Oh I totally agree. But look at the difference in the way the media went after those individuals, and then by proxy, public opinion.Didn`t Blair give F1 an exemption from the tobacco advertising ban after little Bernie applied "influence"?
Two Labour peers got suspended for "cash for amending a bill"?
Source: https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-scandals-have-there-been-in-british-politics
Yes there was some corruption under Blair and no doubt previous Labour administrations. But we’re not talking about that now, are we?Didn`t Blair give F1 an exemption from the tobacco advertising ban after little Bernie applied "influence"?
Two Labour peers got suspended for "cash for amending a bill"?
Source: https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-scandals-have-there-been-in-british-politics
There is plenty of it going on. Moreso for the Tories now because they've been making real decisions and investments for the past 11 years.Yes there was some corruption under Blair and no doubt previous Labour administrations. But we’re not talking about that now, are we?
In general Tory corruption will be more widespread because let’s face it Tories are at home in the places where money lives. And it’s not as if there’s a lot of ideology going on, it’s all about enriching and protecting those who are already prosperous.
This isn't a contest to see who worse, the current government or Crony Blair, it's about what's right and wrong, moral, immoral etc.
I didn't expect you to get it.