Transfer News 2022/23 Season Incoming Transfers and a few other things

[Tomox]

Surely we have to sign at least 3 more defenders? A LB and 2 CBs, having just Moore, Brown and the new guy puts us in the same position as last season, not enough defensive cover. If we are considering Long as the fourth CB, then we need another RB to cover him.

I agree we need a LB and CB for sure. But having 4 CB's of starting League 1 quality will be difficult. Firstly, what do you day to the player who you are signing to be 4th choice, who is probably barely going to kick a ball. You're not going to loan anyone because no team will want their player sat on the bench all season...

If you look back at our promotion season of 2015-16, we only had three CB's all season who were of starting quality (Wright, Mullins and Dunkley). Having 4 seems like a gamble and unless there is an injury crisis then it will be a waste of money. We aren't Man City, being able to offer a player a ridiculous wage in order to soften their lack of game time...we have to try and prioritise what we need. And no player is going to join us at our level unless we can offer a realistic chance of playing a decent number of games.

Having depth in forward positions is more important because wingers can come on and change games when you need a goal or do something to shift momentum. I know it's unpopular on here to say that, but I think it's true and I've been looking at the squads that Rotherham and Blackpool put together in their promotion seasons, and they seem to have done the same thing.

I don't count Sheffield Wednesday because they basically are the Man City of league 1 and can offer silly wages to counter lack of game time.

 

[WEYellow]

I wonder if we've put in an ambitious bid for Scully from Lincoln, I was told that there was a big chance he was coming to us back in 2019 so KR must have a fancy. Contract up next year, can play on both wings, goal scorer at this level, we could do a lot worse...

 

[werthersoriginal]

I agree we need a LB and CB for sure. But having 4 CB's of starting League 1 quality will be difficult. Firstly, what do you day to the player who you are signing to be 4th choice, who is probably barely going to kick a ball. You're not going to loan anyone because no team will want their player sat on the bench all season...

If you look back at our promotion season of 2015-16, we only had three CB's all season who were of starting quality (Wright, Mullins and Dunkley). Having 4 seems like a gamble and unless their is an injury crisis then it will be a waste of money. We aren't Man City, we have to try and prioritise what we need. Having depth in forward positions is more important because wingers can come on and change games when you need a goal or something to shift momentum.

I'm hoping that this season we can use young specialist players as third and fourth choices rather than having to move senior players around to unfamiliar positions.

 

[CCYellow]

I agree we need a LB and CB for sure. But having 4 CB's of starting League 1 quality will be difficult. Firstly, what do you day to the player who you are signing to be 4th choice, who is probably barely going to kick a ball. You're not going to loan anyone because no team will want their player sat on the bench all season...

If you look back at our promotion season of 2015-16, we only had three CB's all season who were of starting quality (Wright, Mullins and Dunkley). Having 4 seems like a gamble and unless there is an injury crisis then it will be a waste of money. We aren't Man City, we have to try and prioritise what we need. Having depth in forward positions is more important because wingers can come on and change games when you need a goal or do something to shift momentum.

Get in a player to develop like we did for McNally and Atkinson, won't be first choice this season but will still an opportunity.
Better than having Moore break his leg the day after deadline day and we have 2 CBs until January. One suspension (common for defenders) or injury and we're in a crisis.
Or get a RB to challenge Long, and Long can be the 4th choice CB, then you still have the New RB/Forde to cover.

 

[Foley]

Surely we have to sign at least 3 more defenders? A LB and 2 CBs, having just Moore, Brown and the new guy puts us in the same position as last season, not enough defensive cover. If we are considering Long as the fourth CB, then we need another RB to cover him.

Not sure we will have 4 CBs.
Moore, Brown, ANO with Golding, Mous or Long in am emergency

 

[WRox]

Not sure we will have 4 CBs.
Moore, Brown, ANO with Golding, Mous or Long in am emergency

I agree - and that set actually isn’t bad at all with Long as 4th choice. The issue for me is that Long is first choice RB without any natural competition. 2 injuries away from choosing between Forde, Mous and Golding doesn’t feel like addressing the defensive depth issue from last season.

 

[Oxford1996]

Stuart Findlay hopefully announced Thursday/Friday.

 

[Dudders89]

Is this Stuart Findlay any good?
I don't really know much about him...

 

[Oufccraig45]

Stuart Findlay hopefully announced Thursday/Friday.

I've just read that are we not expecting anymore this week as someone stated over the weekend that a major signing today????

 

[BigCrompy]

I agree we need a LB and CB for sure. But having 4 CB's of starting League 1 quality will be difficult. Firstly, what do you say to the player who you are signing to be 4th choice, who is probably barely going to kick a ball. You're not going to loan anyone because no team will want their player sat on the bench all season...

You say - train the house down, you'll get a shot at the first XI....play your very best, you might get a big money move to the Champ or higher within two seasons. I'm looking at the best defender in a Division 4 also-ran, or an up-and-comer from the League of Ireland. I would expect any young talent who fancies they have a career in the game to back themselves to force their way into the team, rather than be happy to fester at a lower standard.

If you look back at our promotion season of 2015-16, we only had three CB's all season who were of starting quality (Wright, Mullins and Dunkley). Having 4 seems like a gamble and unless there is an injury crisis then it will be a waste of money. We aren't Man City, being able to offer a player a ridiculous wage in order to soften their lack of game time...we have to try and prioritise what we need. And no player is going to join us at our level unless we can offer a realistic chance of playing a decent number of games.

Having depth in forward positions is more important because wingers can come on and change games when you need a goal or do something to shift momentum. I know it's unpopular on here to say that, but I think it's true and I've been looking at the squads that Rotherham and Blackpool put together in their promotion seasons, and they seem to have done the same thing.

We cannot forget that we shall have a squad of 22, without GKs or youth teamers (and a bench of 5 this year, isn't it?) What do forumees think is the ideal distribution of positions within the squad? Being as coarse as possible about it, you'll struggle to convince me it's anything other than 8D 8M 6F or thereabouts, bearing in mind players like Forde can cover more than one position. Maybe 8D 5CM 5W 4S if we want to split things up any more.

Considering any potential match situation, we have to be able to adapt to play any other 3, 4 or 5 defenders at any one time, and as CC Yellow says above, if we start with only 3 realistic CB options, if one is injured and one is on a 3 match suspension....we are fooked.

4 genuine options at CB, please...Sam Long may be one of them, but then he requires some proper RB cover, too.

 

[ttg17]

I agree we need a LB and CB for sure. But having 4 CB's of starting League 1 quality will be difficult. Firstly, what do you day to the player who you are signing to be 4th choice, who is probably barely going to kick a ball. You're not going to loan anyone because no team will want their player sat on the bench all season...

If you look back at our promotion season of 2015-16, we only had three CB's all season who were of starting quality (Wright, Mullins and Dunkley). Having 4 seems like a gamble and unless there is an injury crisis then it will be a waste of money. We aren't Man City, being able to offer a player a ridiculous wage in order to soften their lack of game time...we have to try and prioritise what we need. And no player is going to join us at our level unless we can offer a realistic chance of playing a decent number of games.

Having depth in forward positions is more important because wingers can come on and change games when you need a goal or do something to shift momentum. I know it's unpopular on here to say that, but I think it's true and I've been looking at the squads that Rotherham and Blackpool put together in their promotion seasons, and they seem to have done the same thing.

I don't count Sheffield Wednesday because they basically are the Man City of league 1 and can offer silly wages to counter lack of game time.

I’d never really thought about this before but fair point. The promotion season we had no more defensive backup, really, than we normally do under KR. The three CBs you mention, and then Skarz and Baldock. Evans replaced Skarz when he got a long term injury, and JJK came in for Baldock. Unless I’m missing anyone, there was never any overlap, right? I feel like Sam Long, Josh Ruffels and maybe Canice Carrol might have been in the building but can’t remember them playing much, if at all.

Just goes to show that even in that much-vaunted ‘well balanced’ squad, we were one defensive injury away from probably failing to go up.

 

[captainox]

Stuart Findlay hopefully announced Thursday/Friday.

All quite a strange process if it happens.

Not played for Philadelphia Union since 19th May.
Our alleged interest reappears on twitter/this forum based on a KR comment about someone abroad.

Findlay plays the full 90 for them last night.

But is still apparently joining us at the back end of the week.

 

[Dudders89]

Just goes to show that even in that much-vaunted ‘well balanced’ squad, we were one defensive injury away from probably failing to go up.

And this, I guess, highlights who we are as a league 1 team.

There are financial powerhouses that can overcome this obstacle, and sign whoever they want and offer ridiculous wages.

We have to be sustainable... And if that means being short(shorter than the likes of Sheffield) in a position to remain financial viable, and ensure a stable future, then that's how it has to be

 

[Oxford1996]

All quite a strange process if it happens.

Not played for Philadelphia Union since 19th May.
Our alleged interest reappears on twitter/this forum based on a KR comment about someone abroad.

Findlay plays the full 90 for them last night.

But is still apparently joining us at the back end of the week.

Ernst Tanner, sporting director of Philadelphia Union said last night that a centre back would be moving abroad.

 

[Dudders89]

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Ernst Tanner, sporting director of Philadelphia Union said last night that a centre back would be moving abroad.

"He hinted at wanting to sure up the defense if someone is lured away by the promise of more playing time; though he didn’t explicitly name him, that likely refers to Stuart Findlay, who rebuffed loan offers last summer and has played only nine league games (six starts) including playoffs in 18 months"

Union: Expect a sedate summer in the transfer market

CHESTER — Big changes are not coming to the Philadelphia Union this summer. That may not come as a surprise, since the Union have neither the glaring needs nor the funds to finance big moves. But t…

www.delcotimes.com

 

[Oxford57]

Philadelphia Union had another Independence Blue Cross Achievement Unlocked in 2022, with the latest coming from center back Stuart Findlay on Tuesday night.
Playing in the Round of 32 of the Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup, Findlay notched his first DOOP with the Boys in Blue with a 77th minute finish on the road. Sticking to his line after an initial clearance, Findlay showcased his finishing touch after a volley from Jose Martinez.
Ok I give up , I don’t understand much of this!

 

[Foley]

I’d never really thought about this before but fair point. The promotion season we had no more defensive backup, really, than we normally do under KR. The three CBs you mention, and then Skarz and Baldock. Evans replaced Skarz when he got a long term injury, and JJK came in for Baldock. Unless I’m missing anyone, there was never any overlap, right? I feel like Sam Long, Josh Ruffels and maybe Canice Carrol might have been in the building but can’t remember them playing much, if at all.

Just goes to show that even in that much-vaunted ‘well balanced’ squad, we were one defensive injury away from probably failing to go up.

MAPP decided to go for quality over quantity and so took a risk so far as injuries were concerned.
Marvin Johnson ended up as a left back.

 

[Tomox]

Nice of Philadelphia Union to risk a player who we have just had a bid accepted for?

 

[Teacher]

Stuart Findlay hopefully announced Thursday/Friday.

Are you guessing or do you know?

 

[Followtheox1]

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"He hinted at wanting to sure up the defense if someone is lured away by the promise of more playing time; though he didn’t explicitly name him, that likely refers to Stuart Findlay, who rebuffed loan offers last summer and has played only nine league games (six starts) including playoffs in 18 months"

Union: Expect a sedate summer in the transfer market

CHESTER — Big changes are not coming to the Philadelphia Union this summer. That may not come as a surprise, since the Union have neither the glaring needs nor the funds to finance big moves. But t…

www.delcotimes.com

Do you know why he has played so little?