Ex Player Matt Taylor

[Osei Yaw]

Wasn't it Darren Patterson who said Taylor was the best finisher at the club when he was coming through in 2006/07? Probably not a particularly high bar at the time (although Basham was decent), but I guess he must have always had promise.

 

[Berliner]

Wasn't it Darren Patterson who said Taylor was the best finisher at the club when he was coming through in 2006/07? Probably not a particularly high bar at the time (although Basham was decent), but I guess he must have always had promise.

Say what you like about Patto as a manager, but he knew a good young player when he saw them.

 

[SirAndyOfCrosby]

Apologies for a new thread but what I would like to address is a general response to posts in a number of threads over the weekend (Fleetwood Matchday, Incoming Players, Robbo Out).

It's part of a trend I have noticed whereby on the roughly 50% of games in which Taylor fails to score there are a few posts suggesting that he doesn't do enough, or other such vague words.
First off, he is the best out and out striker we have had in the 21st Century, by quite some distance (sorry Beano).
How many years have we collectively been crying out for a 20 goal a season centre forward? And now we have one, who does it year in year out. In League One. Oh, and he's an Oxford boy.
And yet on the 50% of games in which he doesn't bag, someone will question his lack of all round game or that he didn't do enough that day? Have we become complacent?
He scores 20+ a season. Every season. In League One. As a lone striker for much of it.

Of course I'm not suggesting he should be immune from criticism - if it's warranted. But I don't think (for the most part at least) that it is warranted. As i say very vague and only happens when he doesn't score. If he doesn't do enough generally that should apply every game no? Otherwise it seems as though if he doesnt score he has to compensate in other ways on those specific games only - as though he should alter his game?
I don't want him running around like a headless chicken. I don't want him defending corners. That's not the nature of his game. He is an out and out goalscorer. He may miss the odd chance, but he scores far more than he misses. That's the nature of his game.

If anyone can be specific in their criticism fair enough, but I'm not really seeing it.

There are plenty of things to fix about this team for next season but Matty Taylor is not one of them.
Along with Cam Bran, first name on the team sheet.

 

[Yellow River]

I’m sure Taylor wants to play ever game, but he really shouldn’t be having to. Especially in the formation that Robinson favours with one upfront.

All things considered I thinkTaylor has done well this season. He’s been over used and that is down to the manager and the lack of suitable alternatives. Winnall has proven to be way past his sell by date and Agyie was shipped out after being mismanaged.

 

[stokeu]

Along with Cam Bran, first name on the team sheet.

So who is first?

 

[Foley]

Apologies for a new thread but what I would like to address is a general response to posts in a number of threads over the weekend (Fleetwood Matchday, Incoming Players, Robbo Out).

It's part of a trend I have noticed whereby on the roughly 50% of games in which Taylor fails to score there are a few posts suggesting that he doesn't do enough, or other such vague words.
First off, he is the best out and out striker we have had in the 21st Century, by quite some distance (sorry Beano).
How many years have we collectively been crying out for a 20 goal a season centre forward? And now we have one, who does it year in year out. In League One. Oh, and he's an Oxford boy.
And yet on the 50% of games in which he doesn't bag, someone will question his lack of all round game or that he didn't do enough that day? Have we become complacent?
He scores 20+ a season. Every season. In League One. As a lone striker for much of it.

Of course I'm not suggesting he should be immune from criticism - if it's warranted. But I don't think (for the most part at least) that it is warranted. As i say very vague and only happens when he doesn't score. If he doesn't do enough generally that should apply every game no? Otherwise it seems as though if he doesnt score he has to compensate in other ways on those specific games only - as though he should alter his game?
I don't want him running around like a headless chicken. I don't want him defending corners. That's not the nature of his game. He is an out and out goalscorer. He may miss the odd chance, but he scores far more than he misses. That's the nature of his game.

If anyone can be specific in their criticism fair enough, but I'm not really seeing it.

There are plenty of things to fix about this team for next season but Matty Taylor is not one of them.
Along with Cam Bran, first name on the team sheet.

I generally agree with that.
Except that he is often very good defending corners (he us often the one heading the ball asay)

 

[MiddleBartonYellow]

Apologies for a new thread but what I would like to address is a general response to posts in a number of threads over the weekend (Fleetwood Matchday, Incoming Players, Robbo Out).

It's part of a trend I have noticed whereby on the roughly 50% of games in which Taylor fails to score there are a few posts suggesting that he doesn't do enough, or other such vague words.
First off, he is the best out and out striker we have had in the 21st Century, by quite some distance (sorry Beano).
How many years have we collectively been crying out for a 20 goal a season centre forward? And now we have one, who does it year in year out. In League One. Oh, and he's an Oxford boy.
And yet on the 50% of games in which he doesn't bag, someone will question his lack of all round game or that he didn't do enough that day? Have we become complacent?
He scores 20+ a season. Every season. In League One. As a lone striker for much of it.

Of course I'm not suggesting he should be immune from criticism - if it's warranted. But I don't think (for the most part at least) that it is warranted. As i say very vague and only happens when he doesn't score. If he doesn't do enough generally that should apply every game no? Otherwise it seems as though if he doesnt score he has to compensate in other ways on those specific games only - as though he should alter his game?
I don't want him running around like a headless chicken. I don't want him defending corners. That's not the nature of his game. He is an out and out goalscorer. He may miss the odd chance, but he scores far more than he misses. That's the nature of his game.

If anyone can be specific in their criticism fair enough, but I'm not really seeing it.

There are plenty of things to fix about this team for next season but Matty Taylor is not one of them.
Along with Cam Bran, first name on the team sheet.

Good post, agree with all of that.

 

[m]

.....and Agyie was shipped out after being mismanaged.

Or, just maybe, because he wasn't good enough.

 

[Foley]

Or, just maybe, because he wasn't good enough.

Spot on.

 

[Foley]

Agyie was shipped out after being mismanaged.

Let's see. If it is that simple he will be managed well and play at a higher level? I somehow doubt it

 

[Bath Yellow]

Taylor works his socks off for the team and is Oxford through and through.
a lot of the time he is left isolated on his own with very little support against 10ft tall defenders with high crosses coming in which is not his game.. i think we all saw the difference after we signed Baldock. 22 goals which with a decent partner to feed off things may have been a little different from where we are now.

 

[Scotchegg]

Let's see. If it is that simple he will be managed well and play at a higher level? I somehow doubt it

Dan has scored 1 goal (a tap-in to an open goal) since moving to Crewe. I appreciate that he's joined a struggling team and maybe struggling with his own confidence, but maybe he's also been mismanaged at Crewe?

 

[OxfordBoy]

It’s because pretty much his entire time here we have had no plan B when it’s not his type of game, he shouldn’t escape some criticism but how often have we played him against a big, strong physical team and him not get near the ball for 90 minutes?

It really isn’t rocket science unless you’re Karl Robinson

 

[Oxford1996]

Taylor like others has been victim of our shoddy squad building. He’s expected to play every second of every game up front.

We saw how much more there is to his game that we don’t see due to it when he played alongside Baldock for a few weeks.

He’s one of the best strikers in League 1.

 

[werthersoriginal]

Apologies for a new thread but what I would like to address is a general response to posts in a number of threads over the weekend (Fleetwood Matchday, Incoming Players, Robbo Out).

It's part of a trend I have noticed whereby on the roughly 50% of games in which Taylor fails to score there are a few posts suggesting that he doesn't do enough, or other such vague words.
First off, he is the best out and out striker we have had in the 21st Century, by quite some distance (sorry Beano).
How many years have we collectively been crying out for a 20 goal a season centre forward? And now we have one, who does it year in year out. In League One. Oh, and he's an Oxford boy.
And yet on the 50% of games in which he doesn't bag, someone will question his lack of all round game or that he didn't do enough that day? Have we become complacent?
He scores 20+ a season. Every season. In League One. As a lone striker for much of it.

Of course I'm not suggesting he should be immune from criticism - if it's warranted. But I don't think (for the most part at least) that it is warranted. As i say very vague and only happens when he doesn't score. If he doesn't do enough generally that should apply every game no? Otherwise it seems as though if he doesnt score he has to compensate in other ways on those specific games only - as though he should alter his game?
I don't want him running around like a headless chicken. I don't want him defending corners. That's not the nature of his game. He is an out and out goalscorer. He may miss the odd chance, but he scores far more than he misses. That's the nature of his game.

If anyone can be specific in their criticism fair enough, but I'm not really seeing it.

There are plenty of things to fix about this team for next season but Matty Taylor is not one of them.
Along with Cam Bran, first name on the team sheet.

Yes exactly, he’s not some burly Ellis Harrison type, you aren’t supposed to notice him till he pops up to to score from a yard. There is an argument that we sometimes need a plan B, with more of a target man or a second striker, but that’s not his fault.

 

[nige01ox]

Matty Taylor is a quality player. I think KR may have (very wrongly!) described Winnall as this when we signed him, but for me Taylor is as good as it gets as a centre forward at this level. I only wish he had signed back when handshake gate happened as he'd have ended up as our record goalscorer, and absolutely smashed the record too.

People get too hung up about the odd below par performance, as if players aren't allowed to go through a temporary loss of form. Fact is it happens to even world class players - Salah has been crap for a month or more now. But Liverpool fans would still want him in their side, just as I'd always want Taylor in ours.

 

[Yellow River]

Or, just maybe, because he wasn't good enough.

Maybe.

However in my opinion he was mismanaged, often played out of position on the wings instead of through the middle until his confidence visibly drained away.

Personally I would much prefer Dan coming off the bench for the last 10 or 15 minutes in a game to give Taylor a rest than Winnall in recent games against Plymouth, Morecambe and Sunderland where we desperately needed to get something from the game.

Robinson’s unbalanced squad eventually caught up with him in the final half dozen games of the season.

 

[Wallop]

40 goals in 108 games for us often with limited service whilst chasing lost causes and he doesn’t take the pens.

well done Matty Taylor - debate over.

 

[DevilsAvocado]

I generally agree with that.
Except that he is often very good defending corners (he us often the one heading the ball asay)

Spot on, the number of times he is the one to head clear is actually pretty impressive imo.

Talking of defending corners, i would love to see us leave 2 players up rather than everyone
back in the box with no outlet but thats another story.

 

[The mighty Aldo]

Spot on, the number of times he is the one to head clear is actually pretty impressive imo.

Talking of defending corners, i would love to see us leave 2 players up rather than everyone
back in the box with no outlet but thats another story.

Would agree that Taylor is good at defending corners
I think he looks jaded in some games because until he played with Baldock he has to play on his own up front

As to two up front at corners KR has adressed this and says great in theory but in a penalty area that isn’t crowded it gives the opposition centre half’s more room to make a run at the ball