dickwalton1964
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Ban seems about right to me, I'd have probably made it the entire season just to hammer home the message but 8 months seems appropriate. Certainly no less than that.
Not really about how you make the point, it's whether you're making the right one. What's the bigger/better/more important message to send out; that betting is wrong and those 'guilty' should be vilified and put to the bottom of society, or that it's a seriously destructive addiction that people anybody should feel comfortable acknowledging and getting help for. All the while, gambling companies represent a huge revenue stream for the FA - so what's their excuse?Ban seems about right to me, I'd have probably made it the entire season just to hammer home the message but 8 months seems appropriate. Certainly no less than that.
Could it be that the FA have 'gone long' initially knowing there will be an appeal, upon which they can reduce the ban and (hopefully) also do some of the community work that you suggest?Not really about how you make the point, it's whether you're making the right one. What's the bigger/better/more important message to send out; that betting is wrong and those 'guilty' should be vilified and put to the bottom of society, or that it's a seriously destructive addiction that people anybody should feel comfortable acknowledging and getting help for. All the while, gambling companies represent a huge revenue stream for the FA - so what's their excuse?
Dealing with it like dinosaurs certainly won't help, it'll send other sufferers further into secrecy. This was a huge opportunity for the FA to show gambling is against the rules for good reason and punish that sensibly, but then show empathy for his situation and what is a growing problem. Shows a complete lack of understanding or willingness to learn.
Possibly, is that giving them too much credit though? Would rather they take the proactive approach first time.Could it be that the FA have 'gone long' initially knowing there will be an appeal, upon which they can reduce the ban and (hopefully) also do some of the community work that you suggest?
I did think I was perhaps giving them too much credit when I typed it to be fair. I will be very surprised if Toney doesn't appeal the decision.Possibly, is that giving them too much credit though? Would rather they take the proactive approach first time.
Could it be that the FA have 'gone long' initially knowing there will be an appeal, upon which they can reduce the ban and (hopefully) also do some of the community work that you suggest?
Don't know to be honest, I've done what EY does on the political threads and only read the headlines Thanks for the info.It was an independent committee that made the decision wasn't it, rather than the FA? The FA brought the charges, and were in effect prosecutors, iiirc. As if the FA think a punishment is too lenient, they can't just overrule and up it, they have to appeal to the committee, again iirc.
I was wondering if the FA will publish a statement of fact / written opinion so we can see what Toney had done. Can't see one on their website yet. Perhaps it has to wait until any appeals have been exhausted?Joey Barton got 18 month ban for gambling, reduced to 13 months on appeal. But others have got various other punishments. Depends on the exact nature, ie whether used inside knowledge, concealed names on accounts to try and hide who they were etc.
I was wondering if the FA will publish a statement of fact / written opinion so we can see what Toney had done. Can't see one on their website yet. Perhaps it has to wait until any appeals have been exhausted?
another delicious irony here given that talksport can barely go a minute withoit some betting company or other being introducedSimon Jordan and Darragh MacAnthony debate Toney’s ban
EPL have banned betting company shirt sponsors, yet the EFL can allow their leagues to be!Betting is bad yes?
Sky Bet signs five-year title partnership extension with EFL
The EFL and Sky Bet have agreed a record five-year partnership extension that will see the sports betting and gaming company continue as the League’s title partner until the end of the 2028/29 campaign.www.efl.com
Oh.... maybe not then......