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The law is the law. It may need to be changed, but until it is it must be applied uniformly and fairly. If we start to make exceptions arbitrarily we will end up in a dreadful mess.
true but sometimes these laws can be taken advantage of too easily. people know they can get decent solicitors involved and not be accountable for their own actions. it's like a burglar who breaks in to rob your house knowing if you defend yourself and your property they've got a good chance of compensation if you lay a finger on themThe law is the law. It may need to be changed, but until it is it must be applied uniformly and fairly. If we start to make exceptions arbitrarily we will end up in a dreadful mess.
Is that actually true? I know you aren't allowed to use 'unreasonable force' and bash someone's head in with a baseball bat because they've nicked one of your hanging baskets, but I have my doubts about courts awarding compensation if you punched someone who broke into your house!true but sometimes these laws can be taken advantage of too easily. people know they can get decent solicitors involved and not be accountable for their own actions. it's like a burglar who breaks in to rob your house knowing if you defend yourself and your property they've got a good chance of compensation if you lay a finger on them
In which case the law should be changed. It may be imperfect but the alternative is anarchy and Daily Mail arbitration.true but sometimes these laws can be taken advantage of too easily. people know they can get decent solicitors involved and not be accountable for their own actions. it's like a burglar who breaks in to rob your house knowing if you defend yourself and your property they've got a good chance of compensation if you lay a finger on them
ok slight exaggeration, but my point was that laws seem favourable to the offender more than the victim. you only have to read the ox Mail to see some of the lenient sentences given out.Is that actually true? I know you aren't allowed to use 'unreasonable force' and bash someone's head in with a baseball bat because they've nicked one of your hanging baskets, but I have my doubts about courts awarding compensation if you punched someone who broke into your house!
Bingo. This is the crux of it. The law is the law. One might not agree with a particular law, but that changes nothing. We can't pick and choose which laws to obey based on what we think is 'fair' or 'reasonable', or because there is a Muslim elephant in the room.
I fully understand anyone having qualms about helping this individual, but if you think a law needs changing, contact your MP, not the pages of a football forum.
Who are well renowned for implementing the will of the people...............or not.
In fact lets go the whole hog and have referendums on.......
1. The Death Penalty.
2. Readmitting known ISIS sympathisers/supporters/fighters.
3. The right to British Citizenship.
4. Leaving the EU.
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I repeat, do something to get the law changed then. Just feeling annoyed about something achieves nothing.
Just dish out a 40 year sentence,it should dissuade other scum from returning.Although capital punishment all but doesnt exist in the uk, isnt it still an option albeit on paper for treason and treasonable acts?
Potentially a dangerous gamble by the isis bride , as if she wins british citizenship back , as a british citizen she is subject to the full weight of the law including potential acts of treason
It is surprising that any one involved with the failed attempt to establish isis as an Islamist state , committing all manner of atrocities in the process , havent yet faced an international court to answer for thier involvement in war crimes
Although capital punishment all but doesnt exist in the uk, isnt it still an option albeit on paper for treason and treasonable acts?
Potentially a dangerous gamble by the isis bride , as if she wins british citizenship back , as a british citizen she is subject to the full weight of the law including potential acts of treason
It is surprising that any one involved with the failed attempt to establish isis as an Islamist state , committing all manner of atrocities in the process , havent yet faced an international court to answer for thier involvement in war crimes
If only we could deal with all scum so simply....Just dish out a 40 year sentence,it should dissuade other scum from returning.
That's a bit harsh just for supporting SwindonIf only we could deal with all scum so simply....
The BBC/her legal team will keep buttering people up until she's allowed back. Only a matter of time.And she`s still working the media .............
Former IS teenage bride Shamima Begum offers to help fight terror in UK
The 22-year-old, who left London at 15 to join the Islamic State group, says she could be useful.www.bbc.co.uk
Although she is 100% right on this..............
"I know there are some people, no matter what I say or what I do, they will not believe that I have changed, believe that I want to help," she said."
Once a religious fundamentalist always a religious fundamentalist.
Needs brainwashing.......... with a couple of 9mm`s.
The BBC/her legal team will keep buttering people up until she's allowed back. Only a matter of time.
Yep @Scotchegg can lock her doorAs a British citizen she is subject to British law ...if she comes back Id hope the full force of the law is applied.
as abhorrent as it is, given her reported comments about no regrets etc , she was initially groomed to go off to Syria to become a jihadi bride/ sex slave to radicalised killers, some may perceive she is a victim (of radicalisation if nothing else? ), .... as she doesnt have dual nationality, under international law she cannot have her (British) citizenship revoked leaving her stateless.... however British/ English and Welsh law can be applied when she sets foot on uk soil. I for one hope she is handed a long and lengthy period of incarceration ,along with being put through a de radicalisation programme. Or even, as she could be, be put on trial for treason- for which i think there is still the option of capital punishment (hanging) for any British citizen found guilty of treason?