chuckbert
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Not sure I need much more TBH.... and the usual Murdoch media/conspiracy slurs, it's comforting to know that's all you have!
No. Some of the fires may have been started by people.These fires were started by people, ...
Not quite sure how?made worse by people
No. The capacity for reducing fire load by controlled burns has been drastically reduced not by policy but by the warming climate reducing year-on-year the days when controlled burns are possible.exacerbated by policies of not allowing fire breaks or restricted burning to remove brush, etc
You seem to be stuck in a logical loop. Man-made climate change results in worse storms and rising temperatures. Man affects the climate gradually over years, and the affected climate results in changes to weather patterns.so how is the cause climate change? And storms contributed but they are natural aren't they?
. And here we seem to have hit the nail on the head. Maybe the issue is more nuanced than your simplistic interpretation of what climate change is and what it’s effects are.Clearly the issue is more complex and nuanced than "climate change"
Climate change is responsible for the increasing frequency and intensity of bush fires in AustraliaWas climate change for Black Thursday?
Absolutely, and why is it not acceptable to you that superimposing oscillating climate patterns on to a demonstrably warming climate is not an example of climate change causing fires.This article from May 2019 provided ample warning of what the dipole was going to do:
A positive climate phenomenon means bad news for Australia's winter rainfall
Cool seas off WA's north-west could kick off a climatic phenomenon that may exacerbate a winter drought across central and southern Australia.www.abc.net.au
I mean, if you look at the satellite-derived graphics of the recent fire progression, you can see the fires pulsing on during the heat of the day and reducing at night. I’m surprised that you haven’t come up with the suggestion that climate change can’t be true because it is clearly daytime temperatures that cause the fires to worsen, and daytime temperatures have always been higher than night time ones.
As a scientist who has lived in Australia for 17 of the last 24 years, your mansplaining about issues you haven’t even thought about previously until doing a bit of internet “research” is not very enlightening. Rather than accuse others of a childish view, perhaps you could look at a more sophisticated concept of what climate change is, and how it can’t be simply separated from weather, and from climate oscillations.There is a discussion about the effects of man on the earth and the effects we may or may not have on natural weather patterns, but until people like yourself are able to accept that not all bad weather = climate change and can be adults about it, it's not worth the effort... And frankly it's why people switch off to the ever increasing hysteria.
It was well predicted a decade or two ago that the evidence of climate change, rising global temperatures and resulting drought on Australia’s fires would become apparent by 2020. It has.