National News Extinction "Rebellion"

Is this a Brass Eye stunt that hasn't been announced yet? Or a Baron-Cohen one?

It's fair to say they've all gone a bit mad
 
I see the Bourgeoisie had a nice day out today
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We're all doomed by massive corporations ruining the planet, etc, etc , but I love McDonalds, their cheap food and their free wifi. ? ;)
 
To be fair to McDonalds their sustainability programmes and targets are actually quite good. In fact a lot of the massive corporations are leading the way in sustainability and social accountability.

Unfortunately the more I read and see on my social media the less I’m inclined to support Extinction Rebellion. Unless they’re particularly unfortunate in who is selected for interview a lot of the protesters appear to know little other than soundbites.

Even those who may not have been ‘selected’ for interview that I know and see appear on my various feeds appear to lack any specific knowledge other than “beef is bad, flying is bad and would you rather be disrupted now or dead”.

I believe in the science of climate change and wholeheartedly believe we need to work now to prevent irreversible damage for future generations (particularly after just having a son) but having worked fairly heavily for 10 years in industry supporting multi nationals in developing sustainability programmes I do feel some of their anger is misplaced or misunderstood.
 
It's the hypocrisy of them, if you want zero carbon emissions by 2025, going to McDonalds after protesting is not a way to achieve it - you bring locally sourced organic food with you from home. But as you say, I've not seen much enlightened philosophy from the protestors. I saw a clip of Katie Hopkins arguing with a protestor last night, and there was nary a brain cell on show.

All I can see id a bourgeoisie rabble with unrealistic goals disrupting people's lives because they can, without sustained media pressure on them or criticism of the disruption to people's lives. Outlets like the BBC are rather indulging their hubris and ego.
 
I can't say I looked deeply into the owner of the account, but regardless of it, the video is the video. They look off their heads on something psychedelic don't they?
Havent watched it, but they as a group aren't helping their cause at all recently, coming over as a right bunch of idiots. Well the ones the media are focusing on are at least.
 
Well the ones the media are focusing on are at least.
And that is exactly the point. The vast majority are normal, generally law abiding members of society who are (whether you agree with them or not) concerned about the environment and world governments' lack of movement on climate change. Of course the media focus on the 'dramatic' rather than the bulk of the protests because its more newsworthy. And that suits the deniers and those who would stand to lose from tighter environmental controls.
It's just a way of focusing on the minutiae rather than the actual issues. Big business and government 101.
 
From twitter:

You know who the real villains are in this climate crisis?" "The corporations purposefully destroying the globe for profit? "No" "The billionaires hoarding money and refusing to help anyone?" "No" "You're gonna say the..." "IT'S THESE YOUNG PEOPLE MOANING ABOUT IT"
 
Havent watched it, but they as a group aren't helping their cause at all recently, coming over as a right bunch of idiots. Well the ones the media are focusing on are at least.
I've not seen the media cover that at all - it's all been quite polite middle class coverage - even the questioning is polite. It's sad to see the seedy side of ER though - I can't be the only one who thought they were better than that.
 
I see the Bourgeoisie had a nice day out today
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We're all doomed by massive corporations ruining the planet, etc, etc , but I love McDonalds, their cheap food and their free wifi. ? ;)

How do we know what they were ordering? They could have had their water bottle refilled, having a coffee from a Keep Cup or ordering a veggie meal. This photo has lazily done the rounds as proof that all of ER are somehow hypocrites.

They could have been ordering a meal with meat and, you know what, who cares if they do? As I said in the climate change thread, we can't go and live in the woods. The modern world still exists and these people seek to make it better. Some may come across as anti-establishment hippies with nothing better to do than camp out like the world is one big festival, but let's judge the collective instead. They're bothering to do something and they're getting noticed. The people who should be chastised are those who do nothing at all, not those who try but aren't perfect.

95% people living sustainably imperfectly is better than 5% living totally carbon neutrally. Let's aim for that instead.
 
How do we know what they were ordering? They could have had their water bottle refilled, having a coffee from a Keep Cup or ordering a veggie meal. This photo has lazily done the rounds as proof that all of ER are somehow hypocrites.

They could have been ordering a meal with meat and, you know what, who cares if they do? As I said in the climate change thread, we can't go and live in the woods. The modern world still exists and these people seek to make it better. Some may come across as anti-establishment hippies with nothing better to do than camp out like the world is one big festival, but let's judge the collective instead. They're bothering to do something and they're getting noticed. The people who should be chastised are those who do nothing at all, not those who try but aren't perfect.

95% people living sustainably imperfectly is better than 5% living totally carbon neutrally. Let's aim for that instead.

Is going on a march doing something? Just a jolly to make yourself feel good really.
 
This interview by an ER spokes person last night sums the movement up nicely:


It was quite a forensic take down on the facts from ER, not the emotionally verbose stuff the media have been reporting. Bourgeoisie project fear at its finest....
 
This interview by an ER spokes person last night sums the movement up nicely:


It was quite a forensic take down on the facts from ER, not the emotionally verbose stuff the media have been reporting. Bourgeoisie project fear at its finest....



I have some sympathy with environmental protestors, but Andrew Neil took apart the ER spokesperson with very little effort. In the end he felt sorry for her and eased off.

Politicians of all persuasions would be well advised to avoid being interviewed by Andrew Neil unless they really are fully prepared.
 
This interview by an ER spokes person last night sums the movement up nicely:


It was quite a forensic take down on the facts from ER, not the emotionally verbose stuff the media have been reporting. Bourgeoisie project fear at its finest....

I love Andrew Neil, took the alarmest rhetoric apart, it seemed a bit unfair to have the little antelope in with the lion. It's interesting when it's put to the ER people what is required to achieve the the 2025 target which I understand is their aim, they don't seem to want to detail it.
 
I have some sympathy with environmental protestors, but Andrew Neil took apart the ER spokesperson with very little effort. In the end he felt sorry for her and eased off.

Politicians of all persuasions would be well advised to avoid being interviewed by Andrew Neil unless they really are fully prepared.
Or, they actually have some verified factual information, are articulate enough to present that information and, are not just scaremongering.
 
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