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Was about to say this, do people realise how we nearly capitulated in that orient game & had it not been the fact they hit the post it would of been 3-3 when being 3-0 up, I don't think people would be calling Short the Messiah then. Manning dipped because he knew the form we was on wasn't sustainable & Des is paying for that start as it has given people unrealistic expectations.
We are carrying passengers. The sooner we get rid of them, the sooner Des can bring in the players he wants. I just hope they let him bring in his own coaches & people in the summer. It is what is needed. The whole coaching set up is stale & needs shaking up below Des.
Was short not in the dug out on Saturday?He's got people there with him to help, is he listening to them ? Short for one ee completely out played Orient when he was in charge. Do you see the weekends performance, that was not a one off.
Short gaged the atmosphere/feeling in the dressing room and used it to get a passionate performance out of the players. We haven't seen that passion since.
My eyes. There was more passion in that Orient away game than we've seen in any game since.You have no evidence, whatsoever, to make that assertion.
My eyes. There was more passion in that Orient away game than we've seen in any game since.
No, you're right, the manager has no influence over the team he's managing. No impact on how they play at all.You clearly said that Craig Short had gauged the atmosphere and feeling in the dressing room, using it to get a passionate performance. So unless you were in 'said' dressing room you have no evidence of what you stated.
He's not the answer - I'm afraid he's a busted flush. He did a brilliant job here and had a good year at Lincoln but he's now tainted with failure.He didn’t just jump ship!
He had signings lined up, and I recall one on his way to us Liam Lindsey from Partick. We were lining up Harvey Barnes aswell. Imagine them players at Oxford. Eales didn’t give mapp the funds, and with that he left. He was turning us into a promotion chasing team, for our second season in Lge 1. Only just missed out on the playoffs in our first season. Thrashed the eventual playoff winners 0-3 at the new den.
He was marvellous for us, and we were good for him.
Some managers just fit in at certain clubs.
I’d have him back tomorrow.
He commands respect, and he’s good with young talent, and big clubs trust him with their players (gems) and all the players knew there roles in the squad.
He’s a bloody better manager than Des.
You have no idea what the 'Majority of fans' think.
Well said mate.No matter how painful the watch is at the moment, we’ve just got to get behind Des and the team at the moment, especially as we have a chance of getting into the play offs, then who knows. I know it’s a long shot (Brannagan!), but it’s only another 11 games, possibly 14 if we’re lucky, so nothing to lose, hopefully.
Des needs a summer transfer window to try and get more of his players in and his style of play, and hopefully an assistant/coaching staff that he wants. Once he’s had that then we would have really reason to judge him, but I do agree he needs to get better out of what he had at the moment too.
Like the players, let’s not throw this opportunity/hard work/position we’re in at the moment away, and give it our sll, at least until it’s not mathematically possible to make the play-offs/autos! Just imagine if we could go on a 5 match winning streak! (I know, back in the room for me!), but what’s there to lose!!
He’s done more to be disliked (not in the personal sense) than liked, wouldn’t you say? He started from a heroic position which most managers don’t get the privilege of. Where he is now is really his own doing.Out of interest what has Des done to you for you to dislike him this much? Seems odd to not like a manager this much who only has been in the door for 4 months.
He’s done more to be disliked (not in the personal sense) than liked, wouldn’t you say? He started from a heroic position which most managers don’t get the privilege of. Where he is now is really his own doing.
Heroic position....really???He’s done more to be disliked (not in the personal sense) than liked, wouldn’t you say? He started from a heroic position which most managers don’t get the privilege of. Where he is now is really his own doing.
Des has brought in a keeper of repute in the lower leagues, a midfielder with two successive L1 promotions, a player who was Millwalls POTY in the Championship, a winger who's last two clubs have ben at the top end of L1, a striker for £400,000, a left back who's spent virtually his entire career in the Championship or PL. On top of that he's been gifted Brannagan, arguably one of the best midfielders around at this level, Moore who's as good as any centre back in L1, a Welsh international in Harris who he clearly rates, and other very decent L1 players like Brown, McGuane, Bodin etc. Then there's a young player like Goodrham who's bailed him out a few times.
Yes, there's some dead wood but there is at every club, that's the cycle of football. To suggest Buckingham hasn't got the tools at his disposal (6 or 7 of whom are his signings) to make a better fist of the job than he's doing is absolutely ridiculous. He has players who are clearly capable of beating the likes of Wycombe, Cheltenham, Northampton (twice), Orient, Blackpool and Reading (twice) under the right guidance.
Spot on. Some seem to be suggesting he's been stitched up and left with nothing to work with, which I just can't see.Des has brought in a keeper of repute in the lower leagues, a midfielder with two successive L1 promotions, a player who was Millwalls POTY in the Championship, a winger who's last two clubs have ben at the top end of L1, a striker for £400,000, a left back who's spent virtually his entire career in the Championship or PL. On top of that he's been gifted Brannagan, arguably one of the best midfielders around at this level, Moore who's as good as any centre back in L1, a Welsh international in Harris who he clearly rates, and other very decent L1 players like Brown, McGuane, Bodin etc. Then there's a young player like Goodrham who's bailed him out a few times.
Yes, there's some dead wood but there is at every club, that's the cycle of football. To suggest Buckingham hasn't got the tools at his disposal (6 or 7 of whom are his signings) to make a better fist of the job than he's doing is absolutely ridiculous. He has players who are clearly capable of beating the likes of Wycombe, Cheltenham, Northampton (twice), Orient, Blackpool and Reading (twice) under the right guidance.
He's not the answer - I'm afraid he's a busted flush. He did a brilliant job here and had a good year at Lincoln but he's now tainted with failure.
Have you talked to the players abut this then? I certainly haven't but I bet there would be a few raised eyebrows if he turned up here.
If Des isn't the answer and you'd think he's at least got the rest of the season, I'd hope we'd be a lot more considered than Appleton.
Heroic position? Probably overstated?He’s done more to be disliked (not in the personal sense) than liked, wouldn’t you say? He started from a heroic position which most managers don’t get the privilege of. Where he is now is really his own doing.
Murphy definitelyI think Id give Des until the end of the year, but other than Harris, has anyone else even maintained their form under Manning, let alone improved?