Manager/Coach Des Buckingham

Scrongo said:
He needs to be given to the end of next season to be judged.
At the end of the day ,this downfall this season, was started - caused by Manning.
Let him have a fresh new start , not this jumping in, & trying to , sort injuries, & backroom staff ,etc etc.
If he goes we're going to end up , like a tinpot club that keeps sacking the manager every few months .
Where's the stability in that . NONE !!!!!
We all know the injuries are not his, the dead wood are not his.
Let's have some f***""g loyalty he's one of our own.
That's the problem nowadays we ,us as a fan base have gone to the dogs& it shows...
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Well said.

I’m sure we aren’t the only fan base that do it but we have a fair few fans who just automatically call for the manager to be sacked after a defeat.

As it was mentioned on Radio Oxford yesterday, our great start has given some, unrealistic expectations.
Not even the best teams in the country sustain the sort of form we were in!
 
Wandering Yellow said:
For a while under Manning I did think we were a decent side. In hindsight maybe we were punching above our weight.

McGuane started the season strong. Brannagan is a good player. Sparky looked promising early doors. Greg Leigh and Kyle Edwards were looking good, Mills was raw and promising.

It all fell apart but at one point I felt quite confident we were a decent team.
But I take the point that right now we are far from one. It's so frustrating and big kudos to fans who go on Tuesday
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I think we were also punching above our weight, which is why I think we need to let go of this "we were second when Des arrived".

Not suggesting for one minute that things are ok as clearly they are not, but this is not all on Des, who I feel has been left high and dry by our invisible board and was probably promised a network of support that hasn't materialised.

At this stage the anger vented at him just feels wrong, although I understand the huge frustrations. While it may turn out he just isn't up to it, he really hasn't had any significant time to settle in and get to grips with this league. His inexperience and lack of support is clearly a factor, but again that is not his fault, the board appointed him he didn't appoint himself.

Who can blame him for believing he can be a success. He is young, ambitious and has educated himself in the profession, which again I accept is nothing until you get some proper front line experience, but a few on this board have said they could do a better job when they themselves probably haven't managed a league 1 club?

I would quite happily see some "sack the board" sheets at a game because I really do think they are culpable, but it is way too soon to be pushing Des under the positive bus.

We all want him to succeed and some will have more patience than others, but I guess only time will tell who was right and who was wrong .

Hoping (praying) for a couple of decent results this week to ease the tension a wee bit.
 
A lot of chat since Des came in that he doesn't have any presence with the players and he's a bit of a soft touch which is worrying, but the longer he's been there I actually think the players should be bought into question. It's clear they're not playing with the same intensity as they were more consistently under Manning, but at the same time it wasn't without issues when be was at the helm which I think has been forgotten slightly, the football was only good in patches but we were unsustainable if you look closely at the stats. The players have to take responsibility, I think their character has to be bought into question, whispers that Brannagan can't wait to go with the current manager in place etc I'd let him leave if a decent bid came in, in all honesty. No-one is irreplaceable or bigger than the club. The club has shown weakness higher up which doesn't aid the manager at all and just throws uncertainty and a lack of discipline around the club.
 
MC Yellow said:
I think we were also punching above our weight, which is why I think we need to let go of this "we were second when Des arrived".

Not suggesting for one minute that things are ok as clearly they are not, but this is not all on Des, who I feel has been left high and dry by our invisible board and was probably promised a network of support that hasn't materialised.

At this stage the anger vented at him just feels wrong, although I understand the huge frustrations. While it may turn out he just isn't up to it, he really hasn't had any significant time to settle in and get to grips with this league. His inexperience and lack of support is clearly a factor, but again that is not his fault, the board appointed him he didn't appoint himself.

Who can blame him for believing he can be a success. He is young, ambitious and has educated himself in the profession, which again I accept is nothing until you get some proper front line experience, but a few on this board have said they could do a better job when they themselves probably haven't managed a league 1 club?

I would quite happily see some "sack the board" sheets at a game because I really do think they are culpable, but it is way too soon to be pushing Des under the positive bus.

We all want him to succeed and some will have more patience than others, but I guess only time will tell who was right and who was wrong .

Hoping (praying) for a couple of decent results this week to ease the tension a wee bit.
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Yes what's the point of a invisible, silent, chairman that's thousands of miles away.instead of being in the nitty gritty of things ,on the front line..
 
Scrongo said:
To be honest I'm angry with the players more than anything...
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Professional footballers are not generally the brightest sparks in the box. It’s very easy to confuse them…. If they can’t understand the tactics, they don’t have much chance.
 
Scrongo said:
He needs to be given to the end of next season to be judged.
At the end of the day ,this downfall this season, was started - caused by Manning.
Let him have a fresh new start , not this jumping in, & trying to , sort injuries, & backroom staff ,etc etc.
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The downfall this season was not caused by Manning. It was caused by the manager adored by the vast majority of this forum while his actions disabled the squad as a football team and removed any means of assembling a competitive squad until next season at the earliest. The clown some of the faint hearts on here are starting to want back: Karl Robinson. The unbalanced team and laughable contracts have fu[cked the club for 3 seasons (yeah, next one too unless we're lucky). Manning papered over the cracks pretty well and left before the real state of the team was found out - you could tell we were in trouble by the way we shut up shop after an hour in the latter Manning games. This was never a play-off squad.

Now we have an anomaly - a highly-rated manager with minimal experience of operating at a senior level in the UK who appears to be performing very badly. I fully agree with @Scrongo that Des can't be judged (reasonably) until he's had a chance to fashion his own team but he needs the right support - if he's rejected experienced seconds-in-command (as 1 poster at least has shrilly asserted) then he needs to think again, quick. If, as I suspect, the board level management (aka Chuckle Brothers) have signed Des and dashed back to the abacus and the first tee they want a good shoeing. He needs support.

I can't see them (the 2 absentee chucklers) going back to Bakrie and telling him they're firing the guy they just made an expensive innovation for. And I can't see them getting money for a DoF figure who can oversee the football operation.

So they'd better roll up their sleeves and help Des out rather than leaving him holding both ends of the rope.
 
OX18 said:
Professional footballers are not generally the brightest sparks in the box. It’s very easy to confuse them…. If they can’t understand the tactics, they don’t have much chance.
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Yes ,but usually they are some of the best players that cause a spark... Not some sixth form prefect , daddy buys me the best - dearest boot's
 
Paul Cannell said:
The downfall this season was not caused by Manning. It was caused by the manager adored by the vast majority of this forum while his actions disabled the squad as a football team and removed any means of assembling a competitive squad until next season at the earliest. The clown some of the faint hearts on here are starting to want back: Karl Robinson. The unbalanced team and laughable contracts have fu[cked the club for 3 seasons (yeah, next one too unless we're lucky). Manning papered over the cracks pretty well and left before the real state of the team was found out - you could tell we were in trouble by the way we shut up shop after an hour in the latter Manning games. This was never a play-off squad.

Now we have an anomaly - a highly-rated manager with minimal experience of operating at a senior level in the UK who appears to be performing very badly. I fully agree with @Scrongo that Des can't be judged (reasonably) until he's had a chance to fashion his own team but he needs the right support - if he's rejected experienced seconds-in-command (as 1 poster at least has shrilly asserted) then he needs to think again, quick. If, as I suspect, the board level management (aka Chuckle Brothers) have signed Des and dashed back to the abacus and the first tee they want a good shoeing. He needs support.

I can't see them (the 2 absentee chucklers) going back to Bakrie and telling him they're firing the guy they just made an expensive innovation for. And I can't see them getting money for a DoF figure who can oversee the football operation.

So they'd better roll up their sleeves and help Des out rather than leaving him holding both ends of the rope.
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Oh yes obviously that doughnut Robinson..
 
MC Yellow said:
I think we were also punching above our weight, which is why I think we need to let go of this "we were second when Des arrived".

Not suggesting for one minute that things are ok as clearly they are not, but this is not all on Des, who I feel has been left high and dry by our invisible board and was probably promised a network of support that hasn't materialised.

At this stage the anger vented at him just feels wrong, although I understand the huge frustrations. While it may turn out he just isn't up to it, he really hasn't had any significant time to settle in and get to grips with this league. His inexperience and lack of support is clearly a factor, but again that is not his fault, the board appointed him he didn't appoint himself.

Who can blame him for believing he can be a success. He is young, ambitious and has educated himself in the profession, which again I accept is nothing until you get some proper front line experience, but a few on this board have said they could do a better job when they themselves probably haven't managed a league 1 club?

I would quite happily see some "sack the board" sheets at a game because I really do think they are culpable, but it is way too soon to be pushing Des under the positive bus.

We all want him to succeed and some will have more patience than others, but I guess only time will tell who was right and who was wrong .

Hoping (praying) for a couple of decent results this week to ease the tension a wee bit.
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100% agree with all you say. I don’t want us to make the same mistakes as other clubs.Charlton and Shrewsbury spring to mind and the clubs blame the manager who is already pressure for instant success. As fans we don’t know everything that goes on behind the scenes.
I am disappointed that we seem to have no penetrative edge as we did earlier in the season. I think our formation will change when Goodwin comes in to the side. The board seem to be letting us down with no news of signings. I know there have been small developments on the ground but we would all like to hear some positive news and a meeting with club officials is long overdue
 
Steve Gilbert said:
Well said.

I’m sure we aren’t the only fan base that do it but we have a fair few fans who just automatically call for the manager to be sacked after a defeat.

As it was mentioned on Radio Oxford yesterday, our great start has given some, unrealistic expectations.
Not even the best teams in the country sustain the sort of form we were in!
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Totally agree. Let’s support Des and the team. I’m in the north stand and some of the foul language towards our players when we played Barnsley was horrible. What is the point?? Let’s support them rather than bury them.
 
I thought it was only the East Stand that was accused of using foul language, or that is what I was led to believe.
 
Paul Cannell said:
The downfall this season was not caused by Manning. It was caused by the manager adored by the vast majority of this forum while his actions disabled the squad as a football team and removed any means of assembling a competitive squad until next season at the earliest. The clown some of the faint hearts on here are starting to want back: Karl Robinson. The unbalanced team and laughable contracts have fu[cked the club for 3 seasons (yeah, next one too unless we're lucky). Manning papered over the cracks pretty well and left before the real state of the team was found out - you could tell we were in trouble by the way we shut up shop after an hour in the latter Manning games. This was never a play-off squad.

Now we have an anomaly - a highly-rated manager with minimal experience of operating at a senior level in the UK who appears to be performing very badly. I fully agree with @Scrongo that Des can't be judged (reasonably) until he's had a chance to fashion his own team but he needs the right support - if he's rejected experienced seconds-in-command (as 1 poster at least has shrilly asserted) then he needs to think again, quick. If, as I suspect, the board level management (aka Chuckle Brothers) have signed Des and dashed back to the abacus and the first tee they want a good shoeing. He needs support.

I can't see them (the 2 absentee chucklers) going back to Bakrie and telling him they're firing the guy they just made an expensive innovation for. And I can't see them getting money for a DoF figure who can oversee the football operation.

So they'd better roll up their sleeves and help Des out rather than leaving him holding both ends of the rope.
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I don't often find enough common ground to agree with Mr Cannell but, he's got it right here. The minor miracle that was OUFC occupying second place earlier in the season was akin to plastering rose tints to everyone's (nearly) eyeballs. We all wanted it, needed it and convinced ourselves that it was happening only for the inevitable fall to come along.
It's not the end of the world and yes, there are areas of Buckingham's style and skill set that need attention but, as said by my learned friend, without the due and proper assistance from the chuckle brothers, it ain't gonna happen.

Time for the management to hold that Fans Forum, front up and face the music. Time for them to display some management skills and bring in the right bodies to assist both Buckingham and the rest of the coaching squad. (and that applies equally to the women's team, the development squads etc)

Oh yes, while I'm ranting, can anyone explain to me what the f**k a "match day activation" is all about??
 
Berliner said:
This is a valid point, I can't remember the last time I really enjoyed watching us and how we play. Maybe Burton?
At the moment it's slow, ponderous, unadventurous...just plain dull to watch us. It was dull watching Ian Atkins manage as well, but at least we were set up well.
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Adventurous football, bring back Karl.
( only joking folks)
Although for 2 or 3 seasons we did enjoy some memorable games as well as an attacking style of play.
Even under Manning our football wasn't that exciting although the results were very good.
There are mitigating circumstances that have affected Buckingham's start with us.
I agree the results haven't been great, there doesn't seem to be a game plan.
The players look a little lost to me.
I'm beginning to wonder if the players are actually buying into what the manager is trying to coach them.
That being said, I still believe he needs time and our support.
It was always going to take a few windows to sort out the mess left by Robinson.
I think next season will be the time to evaluate whether Buckingham is the right man.
 
He isn’t going anywhere anytime soon when you consider the cost to bring him in. They will stick with him, definitely for this season and next unless we are battling relegation. There was a guy on Radox yesterday saying that injuries don’t matter and we need to get on with it, what a load of B*****s, of course it matters. Personally I think we‘ve always been short and look what we are, a team half rebuilt, not helped by being decimated by injuries. They are a good team but not a top team, the question is has this guy got the know how to make us a top team. He has to be given the chance.
 
Berliner said:
This is a valid point, I can't remember the last time I really enjoyed watching us and how we play. Maybe Burton?
At the moment it's slow, ponderous, unadventurous...just plain dull to watch us. It was dull watching Ian Atkins manage as well, but at least we were set up well.
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I think it’s because every player we have with any pace got injured

Browne
Murphy
Edwards
Mills

So we’re forced to play a pretty pedestrian 352 formation as a result
 
MC Yellow said:
I think we were also punching above our weight, which is why I think we need to let go of this "we were second when Des arrived".

Not suggesting for one minute that things are ok as clearly they are not, but this is not all on Des, who I feel has been left high and dry by our invisible board and was probably promised a network of support that hasn't materialised.

At this stage the anger vented at him just feels wrong, although I understand the huge frustrations. While it may turn out he just isn't up to it, he really hasn't had any significant time to settle in and get to grips with this league. His inexperience and lack of support is clearly a factor, but again that is not his fault, the board appointed him he didn't appoint himself.

Who can blame him for believing he can be a success. He is young, ambitious and has educated himself in the profession, which again I accept is nothing until you get some proper front line experience, but a few on this board have said they could do a better job when they themselves probably haven't managed a league 1 club?

I would quite happily see some "sack the board" sheets at a game because I really do think they are culpable, but it is way too soon to be pushing Des under the positive bus.

We all want him to succeed and some will have more patience than others, but I guess only time will tell who was right and who was wrong .

Hoping (praying) for a couple of decent results this week to ease the tension a wee bit.
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Paul Cannell said:
The downfall this season was not caused by Manning. It was caused by the manager adored by the vast majority of this forum while his actions disabled the squad as a football team and removed any means of assembling a competitive squad until next season at the earliest. The clown some of the faint hearts on here are starting to want back: Karl Robinson. The unbalanced team and laughable contracts have fu[cked the club for 3 seasons (yeah, next one too unless we're lucky). Manning papered over the cracks pretty well and left before the real state of the team was found out - you could tell we were in trouble by the way we shut up shop after an hour in the latter Manning games. This was never a play-off squad.

Now we have an anomaly - a highly-rated manager with minimal experience of operating at a senior level in the UK who appears to be performing very badly. I fully agree with @Scrongo that Des can't be judged (reasonably) until he's had a chance to fashion his own team but he needs the right support - if he's rejected experienced seconds-in-command (as 1 poster at least has shrilly asserted) then he needs to think again, quick. If, as I suspect, the board level management (aka Chuckle Brothers) have signed Des and dashed back to the abacus and the first tee they want a good shoeing. He needs support.

I can't see them (the 2 absentee chucklers) going back to Bakrie and telling him they're firing the guy they just made an expensive innovation for. And I can't see them getting money for a DoF figure who can oversee the football operation.

So they'd better roll up their sleeves and help Des out rather than leaving him holding both ends of the rope.
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It’s such a shame but this is absolutely spot on. I really enjoyed Robinsons time at the club (he was obviously full of s**t but the players seemed to like him and I enjoyed the football) until last season where things deteriorated so badly
So much then transpired and came to light that it took away any respect I had for him
And yes KR has set us back far more than we ever realized.
 
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