Transfer News 2022/23 Season Incoming Transfers and a few other things

[Mad Dog]

Fishing in bigger ponds now though it appears, and players just won’t come. Sobering thought.

They don’t wanna come and play for a clown.

Players were queuing up to play for Appleton when he was here, as he’s respected as an ultra professional, no nonsense manager, who knows what he’s doing, and as soon as he left Lincoln, we should’ve gone all out to bring him back, as with the board and resources now available here, as the person steering the ship through what should be exciting times ahead for this club, he could’ve achieved great things.

Instead, we’re stuck with an incompetent, tactically clueless, naive, stubborn, arrogant egomaniac, who refuses to believe he’s ever at fault, and blames everyone but himself, even his own players, when things inevitably go tits up.

Why would any player worth his salt want to play for a “manager” like that?

 

[WokinghamYellow]

We had the money to get a squad that can get promoted this season. With the poor recruitment and long term injuries it’s clear now that promotion will be rather difficult to achieve. our strategy in Jan should now be about building for next season and not chasing this one with short term loans that need replacing again in the summer

 

[Jaboysmith]

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I’ve heard we are in talks with Brandon ormonde-ottewill

 

[Yellow River]

Lost for words or where the club go from here.

I thought after the Blackpool play-off defeat Karl had learnt, but time has proved he hasn’t, so I now question if he is capable of learning, and more importantly accepting his failings?

Karl, stop relying on the data analysis and trying to baffle fans with it, but live in the real world.

Football’s a simple game.

KR ( he‘s not the only one) try to over complicate, and over think it at times.

I think it’s probably a form of insecurity, trying to justify themselves.

Stop trying to be clever and keep it simple.

 

[ECYellow]

10 years ago, this was our squad. Was the window poor? Of course it was. But the reaction on here can only be from people who never saw this squad play and realise where we’ve come. No doubt the doom mongers will believe we should be the new Sheff Wed (or Shrewsbury in Kips case) but come on, such short memories on here it’s unreal. The state of the entitled ‘fan base’ we have on here is just embarrassing.

10 years ago Bournemouth competed in League 1 and are now in the premier league earning 100’s of millions in TV revenue and sponsorship. What’s your point?

It’s pretty basic business acumen to expect to build on progress with each year.

Karl Robinson has FAILED to do what was required and build a team that had adequate wing backs (and cover), had proper robust and imposing players in it and to address the walking dead mentality of our recruitment.

If you’re not underwhelmed just because of where we were a decade ago then that up to you. However, I hope the decision makers don’t share your complete lack of ambition.

 

[Reynolds97]

Terrible window - KR has set the foundations for his last season - Should have gone in the summer we have gone backwards since losing to Wycombe.
2/10 transfer window - Im sure Brannagan & Moore both were promised better.
Williams, Sykes , Forde - Not replaced
Seddon - Deemed not good enough by KR himself now our only option, disgrace.
10th at best thanks Karl..

 

[Yellows1]

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10 years ago, this was our squad. Was the window poor? Of course it was. But the reaction on here can only be from people who never saw this squad play and realise where we’ve come. No doubt the doom mongers will believe we should be the new Sheff Wed (or Shrewsbury in Kips case) but come on, such short memories on here it’s unreal. The state of the entitled ‘fan base’ we have on here is just embarrassing.

But that was then, this is now, have you any ambition? - Maybe support Oxford City then

 

[WRox]

So end of the window, now we can genuinely assess where we are…

We went into the window needing to replace any leavers and address the squad balance/depth issues that cost us last year.

Stevens to McGinty - no major difference.
McNally to Findlay - Findlay’s fine at the level, but less of a ball player. It’s a slight downgrade and a bit similar to Moore, but no major issue here.
Williams to Anderson - TBC, too early to say.
Kane to Bate - Bate’s neat and tidy, but a different player and hasn’t had the impact Kane did.
Sykes to Murphy - injured, so we’re weaker until he’s fit (at best).
Whyte to Wildschut - injured, so we’re weaker until he’s fit (at best).
Holland to Jones - weaker, Jones is having less impact than Holland’s pretty flaky efforts.
Winnall to Joseph - it’s upgrade o’clock!!
Squad balance - were carrying about 5 squad places on top of 5 injuries, so think that says it all.

The window has been a disaster, let’s be frank. The league is stronger and our squad is undoubtedly weaker. We’ve retained some very good players and barring another batch of injuries, there’ll be a clutch of teams worse than us but the squad depth is non existent at this point. We’ve effectively turned a top 6 budget into a lower mid-table one by not spending it or using it for injured players.

Where does that leave us? In transition. We have four months now to get players fit and find out if they’re better than what we had before. We need to get Gorrin and Anderson match fit ASAP. We need to address this window’s failings ready for January. We should have a war-chest having saved so much, it should be an easier window to work in, there are literally no excuses not to at least finish this season with everything we need. It’s been an abject failure to not be in that position today.

 

[Reynolds97]

Be very surprised if he's at the club this time next year - Hanging on until the MK job arises.

 

[BrockBuster]

Disappointed at the relative lack of cover at LB, (albeit don't think Seddon is as poor as others here) but there is still a free agents market available.

Karl has made his bed, now has to lie in it. Plenty of time between now and the January window for us either to be as bad as people here are assuming and he'll go, or he'll prove doubters wrong. Imagine if things do turn sour we'll hear a lot from him about how unlucky we've been with injuries mind.

On the positive side I am keen to see some of the less experienced players get a chance as we wait for those to return from injury. Think the likes of Golding, Smyth, Goodrham, Spasov and O'Donkor getting minutes at this level is a good thing for development (if they don't go out on short-term loans).

We know the brief at the start of the season - play-offs at a minimum, with a strong expectation for promotion.

On paper looks like our options are roughly as follows (* indicates secondary position):

GK: Eastwood, McGinty

LB/LWB: Seddon, Brown
CB: Moore, Findley, Long* Brown*, Mousinho, Golding, Smyth*
RB/RWB: Long, Anderson, Golding*

DM: McGuane*, Gorrin, Smyth, Mousinho*
CM: Brannagan, McGuane, Henry, Bate, Smyth*, Gorrin*,

AMR/L/C: Browne, Bodin, Murphy, Wildscut, Henry*, Anderson*, Joseph*, Goodrham, Jones, Spasov*, O'Donkor*

ST: Taylor, Baldock, Joseph, O'Donkor, Spasov

 

[Daviddidcotexile]

Looking like KR believes that the academy players can provide the quality on rotation in our weaker areas. Said a few weeks ago that I think the board are happy to let things tick over whilst SB is resolved. Unless we get into relegation risk KR will stay. Once SB happens performance targets will really matter and KR is unlikely to be here.

 

[OX14]

You’re either a fan or your not.

I'm a fan of the club, not Robinson.

 

[SteMerritt]

I'm a fan of the club, not Robinson.

The season ticket you won't be renewing is for the club not for the manager. Or are you just having a hissy fit after the disappointment of yesterday?

 

[Snoopsnoop]

Michael Appleton messed the chairman and therefore the club around for months, waiting for confirmation he could ditch us, after the chairman gave him a shot at restarting his management career at OUFC. Players wouldn’t join or sign contract extensions while MAs future at OUFC was uncertain.
It wasn’t that long ago. I realise im in the monitory of fans but MA can absolutely get stuffed.

 

[Up The U's]

The absolute shambles is this bloody thread. Some of you need awards for your dramatic over reactions.

Could the window have gone better? Yes of course. Is the squad unbalanced? Yes it is.

But we have good players. A couple of key players back from injury and it is strong. We have made 9 signings, that is a lot. We have given new contracts to key players.

Now we have moved to a back 3, we look stronger.

Now is not the time for amateur dramatics, but a time to support our team.

So we weren't able to critical whilst the window was open and can't now either, got it.

This window has been a f*****g shambles.
The board need to stop being silent, confirm the take over and install a proper senior management structure at the club. Head in the sand, continue "as is" won't help.

We won't get relegated but we won't get play off's either. Mid table team with a small club staff hierarchy.
If mid tables comes and goes with no change then what is the point, history will just repeat itself.

I'm not calling for KR to be sacked, but if that is what is needed to take this club to the next level then it wouldn't be unjust in my eyes.
At high level positions if project fails, you take the blame and act accordingly.

I am upset (yes, I care that much about this club) and disappointed that a season in September can be effectively written off not due to a lack of money, like we have all known, but by ego, lack of leadership and seemingly ineptitude at different levels inside the club.

I'm praying I'm wrong and I'm being overly emotional & dramatic and this will be a great season but my faith has been eroded, (pun intended).

 

[SteMerritt]

So we weren't able to critical whilst the window was open and can't now either, got it.

This window has been a f*****g shambles.
The board need to stop being silent, confirm the take over and install a proper senior management structure at the club. Head in the sand, continue "as is" can't happen.

We won't get relegated but we won't get play off's either. Mid table team with small club staff hierarchy.
If mid tables comes and goes with no changes then what is the point, history will just repeat itself.

I'm not calling for KR to be sacked, but if that is what is needed to take this club to the next level then it wouldn't be unjust in my eyes.
At high level positions if project fails, you take the blame and act accordingly.

I am upset (yes, I care that much about this club) and disappointed that a season in September can be effectively written off not due to a lack of money, like we have all known, but by ego, lack of leadership and ultimately ineptitude at a number of levels inside the club.

I'm praying I'm wrong and this will be a great season but I have no faith, (pun intended).

To be fair, there are some who really need to have a look at themselves for posts over the last 48 hours or so, but I wouldn't include you in that list. This post for instance is perfectly stated and there is very little (if anything) that I could really argue against. I think most posters on here are closer in thought than the vocal handful on the edges of each side of the debate would have us believe.

 

[Thecurraghofkildare]

So summer 22:

We‘ve sold or not been able to retain a number of players with pace, energy, potential, value, drive.

We‘ve replaced with generally older, slower, more injury prone, less value.

We’ve got a thread bare squad that’s about half a dozen short of the cap.

We've got a squad with possibly two proven players of our own who would be considered good enough long term for the Championship (MM & CB).

Maybe 2/3 more of Championship ability if they can get fit, stay fit and return to their very best (MB,JM,YW), though you’d have to be very very doubtful that they could cope with the rigours of a higher league, as proven in recent seasons.

I honestly can’t believe what’s happened, I’m disheartened, disappointed and above all appalled.

Almost verbatim what I would have written although my last word would not have been ‘appalled’, it would have been ‘unsurprised’.

As Colin B wrote on another thread, it feels as though the club has been sleepwalking towards mediocrity since before the end of last season.

Off the field we are not up to scratch - the marketing (poor promotion of season tickets) and commercial activities (lack of a shirt sponsor, lack of stock availability ) simply aren’t good enough. And now we have a much poorer product (team) to sell than over the past few years. With the cost of living soaring, crowds and income streams will likely decline significantly.

On the field we are a hard watch - no excitement, no pace, little attacking threat. If we lose either of our two high quality mids, we will really be in trouble. As it is, I am fearing a relegation battle rather than a promotion challenge.

Based on all our performances to date and the lack of any strengthening to an obviously deficient squad, which the manager himself has highlighted and yet not addressed, we are definitely not too good to go down.

 

[Wallop]

I’m no fan of the manager but this isn’t his fault. In every other company you would look at the roles that this guy does and see that either he has been allowed to take on too much or that the day to day support from the owners by implementing a full management structure hasn’t t been good enough.

For me he is too involved in stuff he should be nowhere near. And that is the club’s fault.

I don’t agree - one sign of a good manager is knowing when you’re trying to do too much to the detriment of you and your organisation. 10 years ago I didn’t recognise it and it nearly broke me but after some very difficult periods I raised this and am now in a much better place personally and corporately and much more effective at what I do as a result.

 

[BrockBuster]

10 years ago Bournemouth competed in League 1 and are now in the premier league earning 100’s of millions in TV revenue and sponsorship. What’s your point?

It’s pretty basic business acumen to expect to build on progress with each year.

Karl Robinson has FAILED to do what was required and build a team that had adequate wing backs (and cover), had proper robust and imposing players in it and to address the walking dead mentality of our recruitment.

If you’re not underwhelmed just because of where we were a decade ago then that up to you. However, I hope the decision makers don’t share your complete lack of ambition.

Think it's fine to use a little bit of perspective. Ambition is great, (and Bournemouth's was probably aided by being bankrolled by a Russian billionaire), but some of the reactions on here are not dissimilar to Bill Paxton's character in Aliens.

 

[Manorlounger]

Michael Appleton messed the chairman and therefore the club around for months, waiting for confirmation he could ditch us, after the chairman gave him a shot at restarting his management career at OUFC. Players wouldn’t join or sign contract extensions while MAs future at OUFC was uncertain.
It wasn’t that long ago. I realise im in the monitory of fans but MA can absolutely get stuffed.

Exactly how did this all happen?
This would be the very same chairman whose business partner walked out following "issues", the same chairman who pulled all the finance and put the club up for sale following similar "issues" (with some persuasion from someone close to him)