Transfer News 2022/23 Season Incoming Transfers and a few other things

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1 nothing to do with you
2 not aggressive
3 no agenda what so ever
4 I remember my first post on hear, he jumped on me with others, acussing me of being a scum fan& saying get rid of him .for having an opinion on a forum . Did I cry? No!!!!!!
5 get over it I'm more concerned with how things are going with oufc at the moment,than your opinion.
6 thank you
7 goodbye🤘
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People don't make millions in business by either "winging it" or "chucking" money around ..several shareholders have even been involved in football at management level before but whether they trust KR's instincts too much to be good is another point. Though atm am sure he has pressure from many sides and if another club came with an offer can't blame him to be tempted.
I didn't mean to imply the or the board were winging it in terms of being successful businessmen - that would be silly! I agree that you don't make money by chucking it around willy-nilly.

But football is no ordinary business and virtually nobody expects it to be a profitable venture. The latest deloitte report on football details that only FOUR clubs in the Premiership recorded a pre-tax profit last year (Man City, Leeds, Sheff Utd and Wolves...who knew!) and that overall debt in the richest league in the world increased from £3.9bn to £4.1bn. And it included this nugget for L1: "The negative impact of the pandemic also meant average League One clubs’ wage costs of £5.5m surpassed revenue for the first time, with a wages-revenue ratio of 103%" https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...e-leads-european-footballs-financial-recovery. I very much suspect the revenue to wages ratio for OUFC may well be quite a bit above that, given the noises we hear on size of budget and contracts offered. The owners/investors know that there is no opportunity to grow the business as things stand to redress that imbalance and so they and the club will just take the hit until it can be put on a more sustainable footing....or that proves unachievable and they cut their losses.....(which is exponentially more scary than facing the rest of this season with the current squad!)

And whilst we may have directors who have been involved in football management in the past, it really doesn't look or feel like they are at this particular time with this particular club. Things are starting to get interesting on the SB front and maybe they have just hoped that KR would deliver again, with more money thrown in to hopefully shorten the odds on a top 6/top 2 finish. It does very much feel like "in Karl we trust" has been the mantra when it comes to footballing decisions because he's been a safe and relatively successful pair of hands (ie play off finishes, plus turning a profit on transfers through developing prospects etc etc), so maybe they haven't had to focus on it too much before now.

However, this season especially, the model seems to have gone wrong somewhat - missed targets, poor gambles on injury risks/young prospects and maybe the odd signing in desperation and even a lack of clarity on the best style/formation to play and recruit to, but we have never looked so thin or imbalanced as we do now in quite some time (and yes that imbalance has been building for multiple seasons now).

I do genuinely appreciate what KR has done, but I think he needs some help and some of the pressure taken off by getting more support with decision making on footballing matters...or maybe the club needs a fresh start......whether either of those things happen any time soon, or at all, is anyone's guess!
 
Actually, the most 'optimistic' on here plainly refuse to accept that there are any blind spots altogether.
I think the more optimistic do agree, but it's all been said a million times! Obviously I want us to sign a full back or two and have felt for ages we need a Gorrin upgrade, but it's not interesting to anyone to keep saying it.
 
I’ve suggested his stats say differently.

They don’t even suggest he’s above L2 level.

I’d rather we go out and sign one of the best wingers in L2 last year. Like an Asante. Like a NICKY CADDEN. Not a crock like Jones.

You can’t just ignore he’s been out injured for years upon years either.
Nicky Cadden hadn’t played a single game above L2 level before signing for Barnsley so surely isn’t above L2 level?

Thomas-Asante has played just 22 games above L2 without scoring a single goal so surely isn’t above L2 level?

Just going by the bar you set of course
 
Wildschut WAS above L1 level. He may well still be. We will have no idea till he’s fit and plays week in week out for us.

Jodi Jones on the other hand.. waste of time in my opinion.
If time is all we’ve waste on him in 12 months time and he leaves the club, it’s not a major sacrifice for the player we could have got. Particularly if you’ve got another couple of options if he can’t stay fit.

As I’ve said before, to me, the risk is comparable to that of signing a player from non-league. They could come in at a similar cost and never make the grade and whilst they might always be fit, thats not much use if you can’t play them for fear of them costing the team.

Now, what I will say is that I’ve found it odd that he played virtually every available minute of pre season and yet in the full season there has been a reluctance to let him play despite games that have cried out for him.
 
Don’t get some of the stuff being posted on here. It’s reported the Palace lad was given the choice of us or Charlton and he chose the local option. What could the club have done about this?
With the bigger budget, Robinson has been shopping for players who are too good for League One. He prefers shopping around the leagues above for talented youngsters on loan or hoping players would drop a level. Although we can match the wages and fees on offer, we waited far too long for players who were always likely to join sides in the Championship, rather than drop to League One. We missed out on quite a few targets doing this, I think it would have been sensible if we'd shopped for the best in Leagues One and Two from the start. And if the Palace lad had an offer from Charlton which was almost certainly going to be his destination, perhaps we should have moved on sooner?
 
I think the more optimistic do agree, but it's all been said a million times! Obviously I want us to sign a full back or two and have felt for ages we need a Gorrin upgrade, but it's not interesting to anyone to keep saying it.

Rubbish. If you literally started a thread on those issues plenty would be along to tell you that Seddon and Long are fine - as is Gorrin.
Unless of course KR unceremoniously dumped Gorrin - then the narrative would be spun to explain why that was now the correct decision.

I honestly believe you could start a thread saying 'who wants to go up this season' with a poll about promotion and some would vote 'next year or the year after, once we've consolidated at League One' or 'not until Stratfield Brake' and would reply with comments such as 'I like winning plenty of games in League One - we'd get hammered in The Championship - more of the same for me please lol'!
 
Nicky Cadden hadn’t played a single game above L2 level before signing for Barnsley so surely isn’t above L2 level?

Thomas-Asante has played just 22 games above L2 without scoring a single goal so surely isn’t above L2 level?

Just going by the bar you set of course

Nicky Cadden got in L2 team of the year last year.

He also played 48 games of football last season.

Asante played 43 games last season.

He got 13 goals & 4 assists.

I’d suggest both of them have shown in the last 12 months that they’re due a step up to a new level. Both in terms of numbers and fitness.

Jodi Jones on the other hand, hasn’t shown anything above League 2 level since 17/18 season. To suggest he’s a level above Oxford is outright f*****g delusional.

Even then he only featured 22 times scoring 5 and assisting 8.

That was 4/5 years ago pal.
 
@WestOxon U’s - Karl's latest OM update - Murphy out for 3-4 weeks from today. So that would put him out until mid/late Sept based on KR's new timeline.

The reason I am not letting this go, is to reaffirm that the information told to supporters is to be taken with said 'pinch of salt'. Furthermore, the information provided to me about the severity of JM injury is from someone whom I would expect to know.

Hardly the few weeks talked about on the 8 August. To think the club was quoted as saying he could train on the Friday before Rovers...........
 
To be fair, the Wildschut injury was unlucky. The guy hasn't been a sicknote through his career, and including internationals he played in 45+ matches last season. It's hardly outrageous to send him on at halftime in the final game of preseason to get some fitness, and it was just bad luck that he got hurt the way he did.

The other four......not so much.
If you had seen Wildshcut when he came on, he honestly looked like an injury waiting happen, in terms of his weight. He was carrying so much bulk, he looked more like a Sunday league player in his stature.
 
Nicky Cadden got in L2 team of the year last year.

He also played 48 games of football last season.

Asante played 43 games last season.

He got 13 goals & 4 assists.

I’d suggest both of them have shown in the last 12 months that they’re due a step up to a new level. Both in terms of numbers and fitness.

Jodi Jones on the other hand, hasn’t shown anything above League 2 level since 17/18 season. To suggest he’s a level above Oxford is outright f*****g delusional.

Even then he only featured 22 times scoring 5 and assisting 8.

That was 4/5 years ago pal.
I’m not agreeing nor disagreeing, I’m simply stating that your perception of how many games a player has played above the level they’re currently playing at is a judgement as to whether they’re above the level they’re playing is somewhat flawed
 
Sounds f*****g great.

Was told yesterday that they fear he’s done his ACL again, but it looks like Robinson is pretty much confirming that here so not much to sit on if he’s laying breadcrumbs.

Fingers crossed that the scan reveals it isn’t quite that bad, but I can’t see a scenario where he’s back on a football pitch in 2022.
 
Rubbish. If you literally started a thread on those issues plenty would be along to tell you that Seddon and Long are fine - as is Gorrin.
Unless of course KR unceremoniously dumped Gorrin - then the narrative would be spun to explain why that was now the correct decision.

I honestly believe you could start a thread saying 'who wants to go up this season' with a poll about promotion and some would vote 'next year or the year after, once we've consolidated at League One' or 'not until Stratfield Brake' and would reply with comments such as 'I like winning plenty of games in League One - we'd get hammered in The Championship - more of the same for me please lol'!
Well, I guess I'm just speaking for myself as a generally positive and optimistic person (but not a blind follower). Agree that a lot of people here seem very binary and are totally pro or anti.
 
So yanic is 3 months away baldock 6 weeks (we might get 3 games out of him before he's back in the treatment room) Murphy 3-4 weeks browne possibly the season you couldn't make this s**t up.


But don't worry lads we've got a meeting at 14:30 to see what to do next 🙃🙃
 
So yanic is 3 months away baldock 6 weeks (we might get 3 games out of him before he's back in the treatment room) Murphy 3-4 weeks browne possibly the season you couldn't make this s**t up.


But don't worry lads we've got a meeting at 14:30 to see what to do next 🙃🙃
Are you the guy who sets up the screen and puts out the pencils for the meeting?
 
Yeah, we get a player with a lot of potential who when fully fit and firing is a level above ours. It’s a win-win for Oxford United.
just playing catch up from this morning, but I’m going to have to bite a little on this one.

With JJ if he was fit all last season as has been reported, but just didn’t play much as he wasn’t selected, then as he’s also had a full pre-season with us, why isn’t he fully fit now and able to start or come on as an early change when we are losing at BR and then 0-2 down at home? we were crying out for an attacking player with skill and pace and the ability to change the game.

So I don’t get this it’s a win win for Oxford and he’s not costing a lot! Unfortunately due to the poor chaps injury history (and I genuinely feel very sorry for him), he just can’t be anything like back to his best and probably never will be, and he’s still not fit, so it is a waste of a squad place and still costing us money even if not a huge amount!

Why oh why, do we do it! And keep doing it! That’s what frustrates so many on here, and I’m sorry if I can’t see the other point of view. We need players who can actually play 90 mins week in week out, and also not have to play within themselves when they are on the pitch for fear of further problems!
 
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