Transfer News 2022/23 Season Incoming Transfers and a few other things

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With Jodi Jones, like Bodin, if there weren't injury issues there is absolutely zero chance that he'd be playing in L1 this season. Mark Robins pretty much admitted that he only released him as Coventry play 5-3-2 and he needs to play as a wide forward.

If we do sign him I hope we have the option of another year. Unlike Bodin, given his age and his reputation in the game, Jones would be a saleable asset next summer should he be back to his former self and injury free.
 
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If it is Jerome Sinclair - haven't heard anything but as I have said already, this close season has seen a noticeable change in bits of information not getting out - then I'm rather confused.
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Half 11 on Friday morning I wrote this, went away for the weekend, and return to 38 further pages - have I missed anything of any value in there? I think I probably know the answer.

I am confused by the Sinclair trial or whatever it is being termed as. I believe one of the reasons he chose not to sign anywhere for the 21/22 season (and there were offers) was because he was looking to start his own business. Don't know if that is now up and running or imminently opening for him to now be ready to play football again.
Bit of a free hit I guess, we shall see what else happens this week....
 
Think we've got very little to lose with either Sinclair or Jones. Worst case scenario they're extra bodies to help in training during pre-season and for friendlies. Best case they look decent and we keep them. Can't imagine either would be on crazy wages given where they're coming from.

I don't think either rule out us making other signings, either perm or on loan.
 
Chop said:
Please don’t confuse passion with headless running!
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Passion doesn’t have to just be shown on the pitch though. The post Stockport interview that Hargreaves gave back in 2006 showed that he cared. He gave a toss that the club was sliding and wanted to rectify it.

That he had such limited ability showed that football was his passion. He would have done everything to keep his career going and I respect him for that. He was basically a ball of energy with fairly limited footballing skills, mind!

That’s what my list was getting at. Those who love football and live and breathe or despite their own limitations to those who simply see it as a job.
 
BrockBuster said:
Think we've got very little to lose with either Sinclair or Jones. Worst case scenario they're extra bodies to help in training during pre-season and for friendlies. Best case they look decent and we keep them. Can't imagine either would be on crazy wages given where they're coming from.

I don't think either rule out us making other signings, either perm or on loan.
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Worst case they take up 2 squad places, and still cost us money regardless of how cheap!

Odd JS hasn’t had trials anywhere else (not that I know of anyway). 12 months away from the game at 24/25 is more than worrying and he wasn’t that highly thought of when he was with us before was he?

If Jones was fully fit again and injury free he could be heck of a player but his injury record means he’s a heck of a risk. Why is it always us that seem to be a soft touch.

Can’t we just have a transfer window of signing some solid decent pro’s with no serious injury history? Or chequered history?

Thought we got plenty of money available, we shouldn‘t be needing to go down this route surely?
 
id be a lot more positive about Jones & Sinclair if we these were luxury signings after we have addressed the teams issues. So far this has been pretty embarrassing & KR has shot himself in the foot again with his usual comments at end of the season - Has he gone after the wrong players? Where is the kit as well all seems pretty amateur for a club aspiring to be top 30 in England?
 
uptheus said:
Yeah, probably because Reading didn’t want to take the risk!
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Not quite sure why he wouldn't train with them last week and play 45 minutes in a friendly for them if they had decided that?
 
Chippy said:
Worst case they take up 2 squad places, and still cost us money regardless of how cheap!

Odd JS hasn’t had trials anywhere else (not that I know of anyway). 12 months away from the game at 24/25 is more than worrying and he wasn’t that highly thought of when he was with us before was he?

If Jones was fully fit again and injury free he could be heck of a player but his injury record means he’s a heck of a risk. Why is it always us that seem to be a soft touch.

Can’t we just have a transfer window of signing some solid decent pro’s with no serious injury history? Or chequered history?

Thought we got plenty of money available, we shouldn‘t be needing to go down this route surely?
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If we sign them on a performance related basis, as we did with Mackie, then it would be very cheap if they are in the physio room or bench rather than on the pitch.
Signing talented players who would be unattainable if not for their injury record is a clear strategy from the club. By it's nature there will be many that don't work, but given the costs involved it's probably worth it for the odd gem.
 
Upthecowboys said:
I don't think any of us have an issue with a 'very cheap low risk option', I just reckon there will be players out there that fall into this category who have a better track record than Sinclair.

Out of interest what do we think a 'very cheap' option is? If we're talking £100k + salary then I'd probably rather take a punt on a player from Ireland, a non-league starlet etc.
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Chippy said:
Worst case they take up 2 squad places, and still cost us money regardless of how cheap!

If Jones was fully fit again and injury free he could be heck of a player but his injury record means he’s a heck of a risk. Why is it always us that seem to be a soft touch.
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This.

I appreciate we take gambles on recruitment occasionally, but Sinclair is odd and I'm not quite sure the guy is owed a living as a footballer?

If we assume (back of a fag packet) that the average pro squad is, say, 30 players (accounting for some kids/keepers) and that there are maybe 120 full-time pro football clubs in this country, that’s just 3600 professional footballers (with youth etc on top).

Ignoring the ‘Top 30’ aspirations for a second, currently we are around 50th on that list of full-time pro clubs - so by that token our players should, on average, be among the best 1500 professional footballers in the country.

I appreciate it’s not as simple as that and that we’ll have some (Cam Bran) that you would argue are comfortably Top 1000, as well as others that are not performing at 'our level' but with room to grow. However, the general point still stands - there can only be a finite number of professional footballers in the country at any one time.

Does Jerome Sinclair warrant another crack more than, say, a hungry 22 year old kid who has been banging in 20+ goals for 3 seasons on the trot in the Southern League Premier?
For me it's similar to when there are calls for the managers head and someone invariably chirps in with “who would we get to replace them” – as if being the manager of a professional football club (a Top 50 one at that) is somehow akin to working minimum wage in a meat factory and not the fantastic opportunity with 100s of applicants that it actually is.

We don’t need to take pity on any players, or help them rekindle their love for the game or any other such sentiment.
Our recruitment should be focused entirely on who can (with all the constraints of money etc) come in and have the best impact on OUFC on the pitch. It really is as simple as that.

If KR and the club genuinely feel that Sinclair is a better option than an unknown kid or even a Dom Telford or a Tshimanga or a Norwood for the money – fair enough.
But if it’s born from sentiment, friendships, historical relationships or some sort of old boys network – that is, and should be, a concern for all of us.
 
tatabanya said:
If we sign them on a performance related basis, as we did with Mackie, then it would be very cheap if they are in the physio room or bench rather than on the pitch.
Signing talented players who would be unattainable if not for their injury record is a clear strategy from the club. By it's nature there will be many that don't work, but given the costs involved it's probably worth it for the odd gem.
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This stuff gets criticised now yet during Mapps tenure it was talked about on a regular basis due to sports science etc etc etc
 
SirAndyOfCrosby said:
This.

I appreciate we take gambles on recruitment occasionally, but Sinclair is odd and I'm not quite sure the guy is owed a living as a footballer?

If we assume (back of a fag packet) that the average pro squad is, say, 30 players (accounting for some kids/keepers) and that there are maybe 120 full-time pro football clubs in this country, that’s just 3600 professional footballers (with youth etc on top).

Ignoring the ‘Top 30’ aspirations for a second, currently we are around 50th on that list of full-time pro clubs - so by that token our players should, on average, be among the best 1500 professional footballers in the country.

I appreciate it’s not as simple as that and that we’ll have some (Cam Bran) that you would argue are comfortably Top 1000, as well as others that are not performing at 'our level' but with room to grow. However, the general point still stands - there can only be a finite number of professional footballers in the country at any one time.

Does Jerome Sinclair warrant another crack more than, say, a hungry 22 year old kid who has been banging in 20+ goals for 3 seasons on the trot in the Southern League Premier?
For me it's similar to when there are calls for the managers head and someone invariably chirps in with “who would we get to replace them” – as if being the manager of a professional football club (a Top 50 one at that) is somehow akin to working minimum wage in a meat factory and not the fantastic opportunity with 100s of applicants that it actually is.

We don’t need to take pity on any players, or help them rekindle their love for the game or any other such sentiment.
Our recruitment should be focused entirely on who can (with all the constraints of money etc) come in and have the best impact on OUFC on the pitch. It really is as simple as that.

If KR and the club genuinely feel that Sinclair is a better option than an unknown kid or even a Dom Telford or a Tshimanga or a Norwood for the money – fair enough.
But if it’s born from sentiment, friendships, historical relationships or some sort of old boys network – that is, and should be, a concern for all of us.
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Sinclair has played at the highest level of three different countries. He obviously had the talent at some point, so can see why they'd have a look when he's only 25.

Would say it's unlikely he does have the hunger these days and it may even be an example of just allowing him to train with us, like Wilshere did with Arsenal or Eriksen did with Ajax when trying to get back into the game. But think using this as a stick to beat the club/KR with is stretching it a bit.
 
We're playing Coventry on Saturday, aren't we? So really we need to be signing a couple of players pretty much today.
 
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