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Well I suppose it is encouraging news after the suggestion last week that "our" Indonesians might be looking at Derby instead.
 
makv said:
I believe it says that we will be the feeder team, not vice versa!
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I wouldn't support a deal that would see OUFC become a feeder club. Collaboration, education, life experiences for players of both clubs yes but not a deal producing players for any other club especially for not club in a developing footballing nation. If anything it should be the other way around. I also wouldn't support a deal that would ever see the stadium being owned by a different entity to the football club like it is now.

We really could do with an update and confirmation of their intentions.
 
CheltenhamYellow said:
Ridiculously quiet.
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Any quieter than the club or its owners?

OxVox put out a statement that reflected the information on offer, not much. Perhaps you'd like them to make some stuff up or man the barricades outside Erick Thohir's house until he gives them more information.

It was foolish for the story to be given to the press when those involved were clearly not in a position to expand. Either they jumped the gun enthusiastically or they're playing out politics in public.
 
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OxfordYankee said:
Any quieter than the club or its owners?

OxVox put out a statement that reflected the information on offer, not much. Perhaps you'd like them to make some stuff up or man the barricades outside Erick Thohir's house until he gives them more information.
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Agree. Not sure what some people are expecting OxVox to say in the absence of no real information from the club. OxVox are not in a position to DEMAND information, and no doubt they will share whatever they receive with the fans as soon as possible.
 
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OxVox are not in a position to DEMAND information, and no doubt they will share whatever they receive with the fans as soon as possible.
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That sounds like a possible OxVox statement to me...

But then I'm sure they'd get some grief if they came out with that. Damned if you do, Damned if you don't...
 
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The truth is we're getting a new stadium at Water Eaton, 20,000 capacity with top-of-the-range facilities, with one end modelled on the old London Road End but with modern safe-standing. They are also going to build state of the art youth facilities aiming to compete with the best academies in the country such as Man City.
Part of the plan is to build the largest pub in the UK and mainland Europe, named "the Jim Smith tavern" which would serve a range of local ales as well as premium foreign lagers, served by some of the best looking female models they are sourcing from the Netherlands, Poland and Argentina. They will be trained to ensure no customer ever has to wait more than 45 seconds for his pint after placing their order.
An unnamed young, ambitious Italian manager is favoured by the new owners who want to give him a budget to not only propel us out of League One, but eventually establish us as a top 6 Premier League team. The Italian manager is rumoured to want to bring back: Chey Dunkley, Kemar Roofe, John Lundstram, Gavin Whyte, Rob Dickie and Toni Martinez to give it a continuation feel rather than a simply "buying the league" feel.
As a gesture of goodwill, the owners want to offer all fans who have had season tickets for the last 2 seasons plus the opportunity to buy a "ten year season ticket" for just £400, to prevent worries our charge to Europe will outprice local working class fans.
 
Wandering Yellow said:
The truth is we're getting a new stadium at Water Eaton, 20,000 capacity with top-of-the-range facilities, with one end modelled on the old London Road End but with modern safe-standing. They are also going to build state of the art youth facilities aiming to compete with the best academies in the country such as Man City.
Part of the plan is to build the largest pub in the UK and mainland Europe, named "the Jim Smith tavern" which would serve a range of local ales as well as premium foreign lagers, served by some of the best looking female models they are sourcing from the Netherlands, Poland and Argentina. They will be trained to ensure no customer ever has to wait more than 45 seconds for his pint after placing their order.
An unnamed young, ambitious Italian manager is favoured by the new owners who want to give him a budget to not only propel us out of League One, but eventually establish us as a top 6 Premier League team. The Italian manager is rumoured to want to bring back: Chey Dunkley, Kemar Roofe, John Lundstram, Gavin Whyte, Rob Dickie and Toni Martinez to give it a continuation feel rather than a simply "buying the league" feel.
As a gesture of goodwill, the owners want to offer all fans who have had season tickets for the last 2 seasons plus the opportunity to buy a "ten year season ticket" for just £400, to prevent worries our charge to Europe will outprice local working class fans.
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Not gonna lie, you had me in the first paragraph. Should have known. Bastard! 😅
 
From this article: https://www.football5star.com/kolom-jalur-belakang-pemain-indonesia-main-di-inggris/amp/

Indonesian Players Back Track Playing in England By Galih Prasetyo on 22 March 2021 9:00 PM Football5star.com, Indonesia - When Chinese tycoon Jiang Lizhang came to Spain and officially became the owner of Granada. The question raised by the media crew is whether he will bring a Chinese player to play in Granada. Jiang firmly admits that one of his missions to have Granada is to want Chinese footballers to be able to enter the Spanish League. “We want to strengthen the relationship between China and Spain in the future. There will be Chinese players in Granada one day, "Jiang said in 2016 as quoted by Football5star.com from Marca. The same question may be addressed by the media crew when BUMN Minister Erick Thohir officially becomes the new owner of the English League club, Oxford United with Anindya Bakrie. Thohir actually had a similar question in 2013. When he officially became the owner of Inter Milan. The Indonesian football public, imagines players of Andik Vermansah's caliber, for example playing in the Italian Serie A. Although Andik himself had time to do trial for two weeks at another Thohir club, DC United. When asked about the Indonesian players playing at Inter in 2013, Thohir's answer was not as straightforward as Jiang's when compared. Thohir's answer made more sense and was in accordance with the facts on the ground. “The condition is that you have no endurance, when you don't play you have to compete again to be played again. "They don't have the resistance to migrate, they don't have the endurance, they can adapt to their environment, they don't have the mental ability to keep improving," he told reporters. At that time, Thohir also mentioned the maturity side of Indonesian players when it was in the spotlight. Erick Thohir assessed that there is a negative side to Indonesian players regarding star syndrome and that is a fact that has happened to this day. "If you feel that you are already good and then happy, that is what makes our athletes fail. When compared, how come foreign athletes can compete in the world than Indonesian athletes. Only badminton can compete. "

Can Oxford Be the Rear Line for Indonesian Players? The mushrooming of Indonesian footballers who have played in Europe in the past few years has been an achievement in itself. Starting from Egy Maulana Vikri to Lechia then followed by Witan Sulaeman at FK Radnik and finally Miftah Anwar Sani who defended the Bosnian club, FK Sloboda Tuzla. Not to ignore the achievements of these players. In fact, the European clubs these players are defending are not big names. Even the Polish, Serbian, and Bosnian competitions are not the favorites in Europe. The Indonesian public certainly still hopes that there will be Indonesian players playing in England or Italy. Although currently there is the name Elkan Baggott who defends Ipswich Town, he has already defended the English club before he was called up and played for the Indonesian national team. Note, he also has mixed blood. For Indonesian players, the issue of playing in Europe's top leagues has become a concern in recent years. It is difficult for Indonesian players to play in England. According to a report from Workinginhtheuk, the Premier League requires every player from other countries to have a FIFA ranking of at least 70 within the last two years. This means that for players to play in England, the Indonesian national team must really be able to improve their ranking in FIFA> So, if Erick Thohir and Anidnya Bakrier's Oxford bought him, could this be the back line for Indonesian players to play in England? Of course it's not that easy. The first rule above is still binding. There are ways that Indonesian players can do, namely, of course, changing nationalities. If this method is adopted, the risk is too big for the player. Is there no other way? Of course there are, names like Egy Maulana Vikri, Witan and Miftah can play in England and defend Oxford for example. The way these players lasted for three years in European competition. This was conveyed by agent Ezra Walian, Wade Putra.
But there are exceptions. "Players from countries whose rank is above 50 can still play in England with the previous condition that they have played in European competitions for three years," said Wade. It's not that easy to bring Indonesian players to Europe Apart from the FIFA ranking issue, according to the player's agent in the Netherlands, Fardy Bachdim, who is also the brother of PSS player, Irfan Bachdim, there are many obstacles for Indonesian players to play in Europe. “One of the biggest problems that Indonesian players will face is of course language. This language factor can make it difficult for Indonesian players to develop in Europe, ”said Fardy when contacted by Football5star.com “Apart from that, the biggest problem for young players to be able to play in Europe is the guarantee of money. "In the Netherlands, for example, there is a rule that the agent must have enough money to be guaranteed while the player is here," he added. According to Fardy, Indonesian players who want to have a career in Europe really have to have good skills and abilities on the green field. The young player is not only famous in the media, but he must also have very good skills in football. Football agents who want to attract young players for a career in Europe will also think twice. According to Fardy, this is because the agent has to prepare many other things, such as education for the player. "However, for young Indonesian players who want to have a career in the Netherlands, for example, as a player agent I also have to prepare about education and so on. It's not a young thing for Indonesian players to be able to play here, " In Europe, as in the Netherlands, said Fardy, all clubs will pay close attention to the matter of background, education, and especially the player's ability to be recruited. So this is indeed a challenge for young Indonesian players who want to have a career in Europe. When referring to FIFA regulations, what Fardy said is certainly true. Especially if the player who wants to be recruited by a European club is still under 18, for example. FIFA regulations regarding the status and transfer of players, international transfer activity can occur if a player is 18 years or older. However, it may occur under the age of 18 when referring to article 19 point 2. At point A, FIFA explains that, international transfers can be made if the parents move to the country where the club is intended for reasons not related to football, for example; have a job at a local company.
 
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The mighty Aldo said:
Interesting conversations about tactics here
What I would say is that when teams press us we don’t look half as good and we then resort to the long ball which doesn’t suit Taylor. To be fair KR did allude to this but we do need to build a midfield that can cope with this.
I have no factual evidence on this but KR does seem to leave the right substitutions very late
Seems Agyei who has proved himself a game changer needs to come on with more than 30 minutes left and certainly ahead of Winnall who is not game changer in that he doesn’t offer anything different from Taylor
Also think that Shodipo should be on the bench because he seems to have more impact on a game from there
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What, as opposed to being on the pitch!
 
Joey's Left Boot said:
From this article: https://www.football5star.com/kolom-jalur-belakang-pemain-indonesia-main-di-inggris/amp/

Indonesian Players Back Track Playing in England By Galih Prasetyo on 22 March 2021 9:00 PM Football5star.com, Indonesia - When Chinese tycoon Jiang Lizhang came to Spain and officially became the owner of Granada. The question raised by the media crew is whether he will bring a Chinese player to play in Granada. Jiang firmly admits that one of his missions to have Granada is to want Chinese footballers to be able to enter the Spanish League. “We want to strengthen the relationship between China and Spain in the future. There will be Chinese players in Granada one day, "Jiang said in 2016 as quoted by Football5star.com from Marca. The same question may be addressed by the media crew when BUMN Minister Erick Thohir officially becomes the new owner of the English League club, Oxford United with Anindya Bakrie. Thohir actually had a similar question in 2013. When he officially became the owner of Inter Milan. The Indonesian football public, imagines players of Andik Vermansah's caliber, for example playing in the Italian Serie A. Although Andik himself had time to do trial for two weeks at another Thohir club, DC United. When asked about the Indonesian players playing at Inter in 2013, Thohir's answer was not as straightforward as Jiang's when compared. Thohir's answer made more sense and was in accordance with the facts on the ground. “The condition is that you have no endurance, when you don't play you have to compete again to be played again. "They don't have the resistance to migrate, they don't have the endurance, they can adapt to their environment, they don't have the mental ability to keep improving," he told reporters. At that time, Thohir also mentioned the maturity side of Indonesian players when it was in the spotlight. Erick Thohir assessed that there is a negative side to Indonesian players regarding star syndrome and that is a fact that has happened to this day. "If you feel that you are already good and then happy, that is what makes our athletes fail. When compared, how come foreign athletes can compete in the world than Indonesian athletes. Only badminton can compete. "

Can Oxford Be the Rear Line for Indonesian Players? The mushrooming of Indonesian footballers who have played in Europe in the past few years has been an achievement in itself. Starting from Egy Maulana Vikri to Lechia then followed by Witan Sulaeman at FK Radnik and finally Miftah Anwar Sani who defended the Bosnian club, FK Sloboda Tuzla. Not to ignore the achievements of these players. In fact, the European clubs these players are defending are not big names. Even the Polish, Serbian, and Bosnian competitions are not the favorites in Europe. The Indonesian public certainly still hopes that there will be Indonesian players playing in England or Italy. Although currently there is the name Elkan Baggott who defends Ipswich Town, he has already defended the English club before he was called up and played for the Indonesian national team. Note, he also has mixed blood. For Indonesian players, the issue of playing in Europe's top leagues has become a concern in recent years. It is difficult for Indonesian players to play in England. According to a report from Workinginhtheuk, the Premier League requires every player from other countries to have a FIFA ranking of at least 70 within the last two years. This means that for players to play in England, the Indonesian national team must really be able to improve their ranking in FIFA> So, if Erick Thohir and Anidnya Bakrier's Oxford bought him, could this be the back line for Indonesian players to play in England? Of course it's not that easy. The first rule above is still binding. There are ways that Indonesian players can do, namely, of course, changing nationalities. If this method is adopted, the risk is too big for the player. Is there no other way? Of course there are, names like Egy Maulana Vikri, Witan and Miftah can play in England and defend Oxford for example. The way these players lasted for three years in European competition. This was conveyed by agent Ezra Walian, Wade Putra.
But there are exceptions. "Players from countries whose rank is above 50 can still play in England with the previous condition that they have played in European competitions for three years," said Wade. It's not that easy to bring Indonesian players to Europe Apart from the FIFA ranking issue, according to the player's agent in the Netherlands, Fardy Bachdim, who is also the brother of PSS player, Irfan Bachdim, there are many obstacles for Indonesian players to play in Europe. “One of the biggest problems that Indonesian players will face is of course language. This language factor can make it difficult for Indonesian players to develop in Europe, ”said Fardy when contacted by Football5star.com “Apart from that, the biggest problem for young players to be able to play in Europe is the guarantee of money. "In the Netherlands, for example, there is a rule that the agent must have enough money to be guaranteed while the player is here," he added. According to Fardy, Indonesian players who want to have a career in Europe really have to have good skills and abilities on the green field. The young player is not only famous in the media, but he must also have very good skills in football. Football agents who want to attract young players for a career in Europe will also think twice. According to Fardy, this is because the agent has to prepare many other things, such as education for the player. "However, for young Indonesian players who want to have a career in the Netherlands, for example, as a player agent I also have to prepare about education and so on. It's not a young thing for Indonesian players to be able to play here, " In Europe, as in the Netherlands, said Fardy, all clubs will pay close attention to the matter of background, education, and especially the player's ability to be recruited. So this is indeed a challenge for young Indonesian players who want to have a career in Europe. When referring to FIFA regulations, what Fardy said is certainly true. Especially if the player who wants to be recruited by a European club is still under 18, for example. FIFA regulations regarding the status and transfer of players, international transfer activity can occur if a player is 18 years or older. However, it may occur under the age of 18 when referring to article 19 point 2. At point A, FIFA explains that, international transfers can be made if the parents move to the country where the club is intended for reasons not related to football, for example; have a job at a local company.
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Very interesting. To be honest it is a pipe dream of theirs. I can't see any way an Indonesian player would meet the requirements for a work permit. Normally I'd be critical of such a strict ruling, but in this case me might dodge a few bullets. No way I'd want Oxford to become a plaything like this. If this is the main motivation behind the move, I'd like to see the end of it right now.
 
Belgium Yellow said:
Very interesting. To be honest it is a pipe dream of theirs. I can't see any way an Indonesian player would meet the requirements for a work permit. Normally I'd be critical of such a strict ruling, but in this case me might dodge a few bullets. No way I'd want Oxford to become a plaything like this. If this is the main motivation behind the move, I'd like to see the end of it right now.
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The chances of them getting a work permit are virtually nil. Indonesia are 173rd in the world rankings, so even if they have played every senior international in the last 12 months they would only get 2 points out of the required 15 points to get a permit. They will likely be playing in Band 6 competitions in the country, so again, they would have to be playing over 90% in the last 12 months to get 2 points. There are other routes to getting points, but the chance of an Indonesian player getting 15 whilst still playing in Indonesia is just not there.
 
Belgium Yellow said:
Very interesting. To be honest it is a pipe dream of theirs. I can't see any way an Indonesian player would meet the requirements for a work permit. Normally I'd be critical of such a strict ruling, but in this case me might dodge a few bullets. No way I'd want Oxford to become a plaything like this. If this is the main motivation behind the move, I'd like to see the end of it right now.
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Surely that’s just a bit of PR fluff? I guess Indonesian players could come and train , play friendlies and be photographed
 
Could be quite a pre-season tour especially for our Manager who doesn't like flying.
 
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