Salary cap confirmed

[Osei Yaw]

I can understand why a chairman would vote for it if it means you're essentially limiting your biggest source of expenditure. I'm sure that's how most see it.

Player wages have been out of control for a while of course, but that's all been fed down from the Premier League. I feel like this is ultimately something that will only benefit the richest, uncapped, Premier League clubs and everyone else will have to fall in line.

Football slowly dying, I think.

 

[bashamwonderland]

I wonder if the Prem B teams will get an exemption to this cap when they inevitably get forced upon us.

 

[RgYellows]

I can understand why a chairman would vote for it if it means you're essentially limiting your biggest source of expenditure. I'm sure that's how most see it.

Player wages have been out of control for a while of course, but that's all been fed down from the Premier League. I feel like this is ultimately something that will only benefit the richest, uncapped, Premier League clubs and everyone else will have to fall in line.

Football slowly dying, I think.

I dont see why the Premier League cares? I dont think they have a hard time convincing OUFC players to join them when they want them.

If anything, not losing £x million a year should strengthen our hand in negotiating fees?

 

[Marked Ox]

I have a few questions, and the answers are probably out there somewhere, but it seems quite a few on here are fairly well informed on the topic so to save myself doing lots of reading here goes:

- I've seen the cap is effective immediately, but what happens if a team is already over the cap (as I imagine quite a few are)? Can they just not sign any new players?

- Do clubs relegated from the Championship have to immediately abide by the cap

- Has a proportional cap ever been discussed/voted on?

- If they are over the cap then they wouldn't be able to sign players until offloading existing ones. I'd be surprised if any teams are currently over with existing contracts (those above the average I think) classed as the average L1 wage.

- Players contracts in relegated sides are considered to be at the L1 average level for Cap purposes.

- Haven't a clue.

 

[Fred]

Because they’re worried about merely surviving in the same way that people use pawn shops, and in some cases also think it’ll somehow close the gap with the Sunderland’s and the Ipswich’s of the world, because they haven’t actually thought it all through and scrutinised the detail. The PFA have said that just this morning. The speed at which this thing has been shoved through is positively Withdrawal-agreement-esque. And as we know, a lot of the people campaigning for that have only just realised what it says and that they don’t like it.

Desperation, meet opportunism.

I'm not saying the PFA are wrong but they are a little bit biased!

 

[unification]

Are you suggesting brown paper bags stuffed full of used £50 notes sarge?

There’s a manager at Gillingham who knows a thing or two about that.

 

[Leysboy]

I just looked on the Sunderland forum, and apparently someone claims 17clubs in Lge 1 agreed to the cap. Bloody ridiculous if true.

I know we wasn’t in favour. We also voted to play on last season, until it was obvious that voting to play on was never going to win.

 

[Osei Yaw]

I dont see why the Premier League cares? I dont think they have a hard time convincing OUFC players to join them when they want them.

If anything, not losing £x million a year should strengthen our hand in negotiating fees?

They definitely don't care. I am sure there will be benefits to us and other clubs, but my main point was that player wages are inflated from the top down, and we're going to have a harder time convincing players to stay with us if they can earn more sitting in the reserves in Championship/Prem clubs. I know that's been the case for a while now, but we're now regulating League 1 and 2, with maybe the Championship next. But the PL clubs can continue to get away with having 25+ players out on loan, and u23 sides in the JPT (that may contain international footballers).

For what it's worth, I'm actually in favour of caps in some way. I'd hate for us to end up like Bury, and it only takes one bad owner for that to happen. The thing that always sticks in my throat about anything like this though is that the problem has been introduced by the absolutely obscene money in the Premier League, and the solutions are often sought elsewhere.

It's completely idealistic, but if the Prem clubs were capped, it would go a long way to naturally capping clubs below too.

 

[holdsteady]

Clubs that are well supported will still attract the better players and managers.

Will they? Would you rather earn 10k a week at High Wycombe or 1.5K at Portsmouth?

 

[Fred]

Will they? Would you rather earn 10k a week at High Wycombe or 1.5K at Portsmouth?

I take your point but I meant relative to clubs in same division

 

[Sarge]

Will they? Would you rather earn 10k a week at High Wycombe or 1.5K at Portsmouth?

could skint Wycome actually afford to pay £10k a week to anyone?

 

[Fred]

I am glad to say Tiger has invested in the development of players and the training ground over the years so I'm not sure he will think privately that this is a drastic development.

 

[m]

Sorry I mean the players that have been signed by clubs before today’s date who will be on more than the average, sat a player is on 5k a week next season will that go to the average 1.7k a week

For the purposes of the cap it would be regarded as an average wage. It wouldn't in reality be cut.

 

[Fred]

Under 21 players excluded

 

[m]

Re fears of players heading to championship clubs to sit in the reserves:

Worth remembering that if they too vote this through there will be a finite number of squad places up for grabs.

 

[WokinghamYellow]

the players will stil earn thier wage as per contract but in calculating where the club is in terms of meeting the cap a 5k a week salary will count as 1.7k. no player will have to take a cut for the length of thier existing contract

 

[warksox]

I just looked on the Sunderland forum, and apparently someone claims 17clubs in Lge 1 agreed to the cap. Bloody ridiculous if true.

I know we wasn’t in favour. We also voted to play on last season, until it was obvious that voting to play on was never going to win.

Other news outlets now reporting the L1 vote as 16 in favour of the cap, 1 abstention, 7 against (Portsmouth, Oxford, Ipswich, Sunderland, Hull, Charlton and Doncaster)

 

[OUFCGav]

when have EFL ever done anything positive for L1 & L2 clubs? cant see that changing under Baldwin, his predecessor was absolutely crap , seems to me like Baldwin is right out of the same mould

The issue is that the 'leaders' of the EFL have no real power, the power is with the chairmen of the clubs. It is a members club not a led organisation. The central EFL proposed tighter regulation, but they cannot impose it, the clubs have to vote for it. There are too many chairman who are not really interested in the long term stability of wider football, they are self interested.

 

[Leysboy]

Other news outlets now reporting the L1 vote as 16 in favour of the cap, 1 abstention, 7 against (Portsmouth, Oxford, Ipswich, Sunderland, Hull, Charlton and Doncaster)

I would of thought Peterborough would of been against it.

 

[Wallop]

I would of thought Peterborough would of been against it.

Yes - Operation Vengeance sounds better than Operation try to beat everyone else on a level playing field.