Yellowecky
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I never understood what people saw in Martin Gray.This is what I love about football, the completely different opinions! I would have those two the other way around!
I never understood what people saw in Martin Gray.This is what I love about football, the completely different opinions! I would have those two the other way around!
Not much wrong with this bar Duberry. Did you see him at the ****** ground?Underrated - Josh Ruffels, Martin Gray, David Smith, Matt Robinson, Matt Bound, Ryan Taylor, Sam Long, Matt Murphy, Billy Bodin, Jack Payne
Overrated - Jack Midson (I said it), Chris Hackett, Dubes, Max Crocombe, Eric Sabin, Craig Nelthorpe, Yemi
I never understood how David Smith racked up so many appearances when he could only move from side to side!I never understood what people saw in Martin Gray.
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Not much wrong with this bar Duberry. Did you see him at the ****** ground?
He showed his age but he was class. Positioning on point.
I never understood how David Smith racked up so many appearances when he could only move from side to side!
I throw in McGuane being under rated as he is very much a water carrier for us.He didn't just rack up appearances - he played 45, 45 and 44 games respectively in 95/96, 96/97 and 97/98, which were three of the best sides we have in the past 35 years! He was the ultimate Oxford United water carrier.....break up play, pick up possession, move it on quickly to your more talented teammates.
The sort of player that is always underrated and almost every great team needs one.
Meanwhile the sort of player that is almost always overrated is the tricky winger that has speed and a couple of moves and minimal end product. We've had a lot of them - Allen, Hackett, Manny, Yemi.....I kind of want to add Alfie and Sam Deering to the list as well, but can you be overrated if you contributed to the single greatest Oxford moment of the past three decades (at least)? There's at least a couple in the current squad that I fear may ultimately end up on this list!
I never understood what people saw in Martin Gray.
And once played Centre Back away at Watford I recall, bizarrely.He didn't just rack up appearances - he played 45, 45 and 44 games respectively in 95/96, 96/97 and 97/98, which were three of the best sides we have in the past 35 years! He was the ultimate Oxford United water carrier.....break up play, pick up possession, move it on quickly to your more talented teammates.
He was far better than pace. He played numerous games in the Championship and was a good player.I agree Chrissy Allen was overrated to be fair. He was super quick, really quick, but because he was so quick he didn't really develop the rest of his game to the same level and essentially just had his pace.
Underrated - Josh Ruffels, Martin Gray, David Smith, Matt Robinson, Matt Bound, Ryan Taylor, Sam Long, Matt Murphy, Billy Bodin, Simon Clist
Overrated - Jack Midson (I said it), Chris Hackett, Dubes, Max Crocombe, Eric Sabin, Craig Nelthorpe, Yemi
He was far better than pace. He played numerous games in the Championship and was a good player.
As a contrast Yemi had loads of pace
Chris Allen didn’t make it at Forest and then vanished, did he get injured? He was fast but I didn’t think he was that good otherwise.He never really developed the rest of his game to the same level in my view. He went on to Forest from us but only made 25 appearances in three seasons and never really regained his career from there. He had so much pace to get round people but for an attacking player didn't score much. Don't get me wrong he had his moments.
He may have had injuries but I'm not aware of any major onesChris Allen didn’t make it at Forest and then vanished, did he get injured? He was fast but I didn’t think he was that good otherwise.
For me, with Chrissy it was the combination of him on one wing, Joey on the other. Rather than seeing him in isolation that is what I remember most, the potent partnership.Chris Allen didn’t make it at Forest and then vanished, did he get injured? He was fast but I didn’t think he was that good otherwise.