New Stadium Plans - The Triangle - Planning

[Sarge]

It does seem like the time to lobby OCC.

Are we all in?

done ( email sent)

 

[Sarge]

done ( email sent)

automated reply received :-/

 

[Billyox]

Isn’t what the council say right though? That any lease does not get finally signed off till planning permission is granted?

Maybe a potential stadium funder is asking questions and becoming alarmed that there isn’t actually a lease in place yet?

No special knowledge here - but this sounds a litte concerning.

no the lease agreement is what will be signed at the end
what oufc are asking to be signed is the head of terms

The Heads of Terms outlines the key terms of a desired transaction or business arrangement.It is not legally binding but acts as a roadmap for the subsequent formal contract.By clarifying essential points upfront, it helps avoid misunderstandings and streamlines negotiations.Before diving into a comprehensive, costly, and time-consuming legal document, parties use the Heads of Terms to agree on fundamental aspects.It sets the stage for the future binding contract.

1. • High-Level Terms: The document captures the agreed-upon high-level terms, such as price, payment terms, delivery schedules, and key obligations.
   • Responsibilities: It outlines which steps each party must take to ensure the terms become legally binding in the final contract.
   • Intentions: It fleshes out whether both parties are aligned in their vision and intentions.
   • Reality Check: It bridges the gap between visionary ideas and practical implementation.

• Conflict Avoidance: By discussing and documenting terms early, it helps prevent disputes later.
• Tangible Commitment: It demonstrates serious intent and commitment to the proposed arrangement.
• Opportunity to Opt Out: If parties aren’t aligned, it provides an exit point before formalizing the contract.

 

[Manorlounger]

no the lease agreement is what will be signed at the end
what oufc are asking to be signed is the head of terms

The Heads of Terms outlines the key terms of a desired transaction or business arrangement.It is not legally binding but acts as a roadmap for the subsequent formal contract.By clarifying essential points upfront, it helps avoid misunderstandings and streamlines negotiations.Before diving into a comprehensive, costly, and time-consuming legal document, parties use the Heads of Terms to agree on fundamental aspects.It sets the stage for the future binding contract.

1. • High-Level Terms: The document captures the agreed-upon high-level terms, such as price, payment terms, delivery schedules, and key obligations.
   • Responsibilities: It outlines which steps each party must take to ensure the terms become legally binding in the final contract.
   • Intentions: It fleshes out whether both parties are aligned in their vision and intentions.
   • Reality Check: It bridges the gap between visionary ideas and practical implementation.

• Conflict Avoidance: By discussing and documenting terms early, it helps prevent disputes later.
• Tangible Commitment: It demonstrates serious intent and commitment to the proposed arrangement.
• Opportunity to Opt Out: If parties aren’t aligned, it provides an exit point before formalizing the contract.

And, it should have been finalised and agreed long, long ago. Somebody on that OCC Cabinet is dragging their heels (or knuckles)

 

[Billyox]

And, it should have been finalised and agreed long, long ago. Somebody on that OCC Cabinet is dragging their heels (or knuckles)

you know who its not hard to work out

 

[bazzer9461]

Forgetting all the politics, planning, terms and conditions etc for a moment

Just how unpopular would a "no" to the stadium be? At the moment, it looks like support on the planning portal to objections is at a rate of 9 to 1

That is a lot of very annoyed people with local politicians.

The national press and tv would have a field day

 

[Foley]

no the lease agreement is what will be signed at the end
what oufc are asking to be signed is the head of terms

The Heads of Terms outlines the key terms of a desired transaction or business arrangement.It is not legally binding but acts as a roadmap for the subsequent formal contract.By clarifying essential points upfront, it helps avoid misunderstandings and streamlines negotiations.Before diving into a comprehensive, costly, and time-consuming legal document, parties use the Heads of Terms to agree on fundamental aspects.It sets the stage for the future binding contract.

1. • High-Level Terms: The document captures the agreed-upon high-level terms, such as price, payment terms, delivery schedules, and key obligations.
   • Responsibilities: It outlines which steps each party must take to ensure the terms become legally binding in the final contract.
   • Intentions: It fleshes out whether both parties are aligned in their vision and intentions.
   • Reality Check: It bridges the gap between visionary ideas and practical implementation.

• Conflict Avoidance: By discussing and documenting terms early, it helps prevent disputes later.
• Tangible Commitment: It demonstrates serious intent and commitment to the proposed arrangement.
• Opportunity to Opt Out: If parties aren’t aligned, it provides an exit point before formalizing the contract.

The heads of terms should have been agreed some time ago.
Pretty awful from.the Council

 

[Billyox]

The heads of terms should have been agreed some time ago.
Pretty awful from.the Council

It should have been signed around October; only OCC knows why they haven't signed it.

 

[Concretebob]

It should have been signed around October; only OCC knows why they haven't signed it.

It's P**s poor. The future of OUFC is at stake here

 

[Billyox]

It's P**s poor. The future of OUFC is at stake here

It's worse than that; we are sitting, waiting for the traffic modeling to be approved again, having been waiting since October. And now, with these heads of terms, if this doesn't give them the wake-up call they need, a very strongly worded statement from OUFC is required.

 

[Concretebob]

It's worse than that; we are sitting, waiting for the traffic modeling to be approved again, having been waiting since October. And now, with these heads of terms, if this doesn't give them the wake-up call they need, a very strongly worded statement from OUFC is required.

It is. OUFC have done nothing wrong here from what I can see? Do OCC really want OUFC to have a new stadium?

 

[Billyox]

It is. OUFC have done nothing wrong here from what I can see? Do OCC really want OUFC to have a new stadium?

We have fulfilled all their requests: the new traffic software was embraced, and the bridge we are working on. However, Miller's letter, which outlines the conditions to be met, is meaningless without the signing of the heads of terms. While other councils go to great lengths to support their local football clubs, it seems that having Greens and Lib Dems on board results in a disadvantage, as evidenced by the situation in Brighton.

 

[Benox]

I understand that OCC have processes to follow, so hopefully this can be overcome. But if the club go under and there is anything they could have done to prevent it, let alone being a contributor to it, that will never be forgotten or forgiven.

 

[Billyox]

are we at this stage yet do we need to pen some new lyrics

 

[Concretebob]

I understand that OCC have processes to follow, so hopefully this can be overcome. But if the club go under and there is anything they could have done to prevent it, let alone being a contributor to it, that will never be forgotten or forgiven.

People will remember the names of those who allow that to happen.

 

[Concretebob]

Love this slap down delivered to Steveopedia

 

[Billyox]

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Love this slap down delivered to Steveopedia

my sister is funny

 

[LeftSideLarry]

As I said earlier, I saw this morning an email from a key OCC councillor involved in this process. In it the councillor stated that the HoT has not been signed due to it containing elements which OCC are not happy with. Further, he wrote that those elements make the HoT incompatible with the Lease and that agreeing to the HoT as it stands could cause problems in the process. He said that due to commercial confidences, he was not able to provide more detail. He ended the email with “we are not in anyway dragging our feet”.

 

[Billyox]

As I said earlier, I saw this morning an email from a key OCC councillor involved in this process. In it the councillor stated that the HoT has not been signed due to it containing elements which OCC are not happy with. Further, he wrote that those elements make the HoT incompatible with the Lease and that agreeing to the HoT as it stands could cause problems in the process. He said that due to commercial confidences, he was not able to provide more detail. He ended the email with “we are not in anyway dragging our feet”.

But and correct me if I'm wrong wouldn't the head of terms be made by occ so how can occ not be happy with it

 

[LowerSouth]

Prescriptions to counter anxiety have skyrocketed.
I wonder if this in any way connected with the ongoing new stadium process ?