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Can't believe we've got one of these threads already.
Going on the tone of the thread, think we should appoint Keith Alexander, as he has a great record of making the play-offs so filled with #eflexperience.
It's unfortunate he passed away almost fifteen years ago, but hey, given the mentality in here, experience is experience.
He was successful because he had a hands on chairman, Mark Ashton (looked what he’s done at Ipswich), Mark Thomas (look at his record here) as well as Faz & Chris Allen (now at Southampton) around him.
Let’s not act like Appleton did it all himself!
You set the bar pretty low by saying he is better than Des lol
But he hasn't been a success anywhere else ,so how do you explain that ?
And yes he did jump ship like LM for the money have no problem with that as that's what we would all do.
Still had to motivate the players, and be tactically aware during games, and leading up to them. He bought in good players, and gave us some good cup runs. That doesn’t just happen with people higher up. So let’s not try to deflect his success on just those around him. Michael Appleton did a tremendous job, and delivered some of the best counter attacking football I’ve seen in a long time.
Yes Mark Ashton was very good, and to think when he turned up, fans on here and away from this forum were not happy he was here, because of what went on at Watford.
Clotet is the worst Oxford manager ever, he was building a team capable of multiple relegations.Clotet didn’t have a team as good as this one should be, and very worryingly had a better record too…
Bill Asprey does not like this.Clotet is the worst Oxford manager ever, he was building a team capable of multiple relegations.
Still shouting second ballDave Kemp is sat there smiling
I think youre missing some of the boring football we played under him and some of the second half performances where we were basically defending the whole half.They were blessed that Manning was not only prepared to do that but also highly effective at it. All the more hilarious that I’m doing so he was thrust in to the shop window and they rather pathetically cried foul that this bloke that they’d put out there to market the club had actually also managed to market himself quite well and attract a bigger fish so quickly.
Manning took all the highs and lows in his stride and faced the music of the relegation battle and the promotion pressure that mounted in an almost inch perfect way. He deflected virtually all attention away from the club’s problems that he would’ve known were there and redirected it in to what was shaping up to be a very effective football team. He fronted up virtually anything he was asked but did so while keeping an incredibly committed group - nobody was downing tools on Manning for making Josh Murphy an absolute last resort and Sonny Perkins invisible. They understood and respected the regime and that smacked you in the face every time you watched the team - it was almost military organisation.
They were absolutely blessed to have him and failure to recognise that and tie down their long term futures - at least long enough to see how we could’ve done this season - will go down as one of Tim Williams’ biggest failings at the club to those with only an outsider perspective (I.e. not a fly on the wall to witness what I’m sure are worse things).
The fans forum might help that out.Yep. Although Hogg also took on some of the media duties. He'd often say the same as Manning, but that only went to confirm how they were a team on the same page and that was reflected through the organisation on the pitch, as you've said.
The first half of Robinson's last 6 months saw constant criticism of Karl (even if it wasn't that hostile at games) but then there was a point where there was a noticeable shift of attention towards the senior leadership at the club. Most fans had made their mind up and they couldn't understand the delay in sacking him.
I've a feeling that we're going to be treading water for a while again before we see any action either way, and all Tim and Grant will do is put themselves back in the spotlight.
I was never bored. I’m more bored now as an Oxford fan than I’ve been in years. With a Manning side you always knew you were in the game or that he was one change away from turning the game.I think youre missing some of the boring football we played under him and some of the second half performances where we were basically defending the whole half.
@Leysboy Would you argue that last season’s Karl Robinson is better than Des?
Because Appleton has taken a side full of very good league 1 players (May, Camara, Isted etc) towards a relegation battle this season, and they are winless in something like 14 games, very similar to us under KR last time out, and we didn’t have many good players.
He’s been with teams in Nee Zealand and India eho wouldn’t even make the bottom rung of the EFL ffs.All things said and done the one thing I like about Des is that everywhere he’s been he’s never failed, I for one am willing to give him a bit more time.
If we sacked him who would we get, it’ll be another lottery, I say stick for the moment…..
Who would you get? - Weird how he’s suddenly become a crap coach, something doesn’t add upHe’s been with teams in Nee Zealand and India eho wouldn’t even make the bottom rung of the EFL ffs.
It’s like me saying I’ve never failed with a pub team.
Did Des bully you at school or something?
Oh for goodness sake, he has only ever not been a crap coach at a very very low level of football.Who would you get? - Weird how he’s suddenly become a crap coach, something doesn’t add up