Manager/Coach Des Buckingham

Are we absolutely sure that Des’ preferred choice of assistant didn’t come due to wages?

Or could it be that he decided he didn’t want to work with Des as he hadn’t persuaded him about his own credentials and ability?
 
Are we absolutely sure that Des’ preferred choice of assistant didn’t come due to wages?

Or could it be that he decided he didn’t want to work with Des as he hadn’t persuaded him about his own credentials and ability?
is it possible that 'they' may have been coming in but before the contract was signed, they reached out to a player at the club and said "I'm thinking of taking the assistant manager role under Des" and the reply was met with enough concerns to worry whoever 'they' were?

it was a weird drawn out saga while rumours circled that players laughed at his early training sessions he hosted.

It genuinely could be Des is great but our players never gave him a chance but having players respond to you as a manager is a part of the managers tool bag. Either way, this has not worked. Timmy Mallet could have got 1point per game out of our 2nd placed team.
 
You are joking Matete is terrible. Or really doesn’t want to be here.
Burey has been frozen out for reasons other than football because he was playing okay until he went bye bye
Negru I’d agree with but he has been off his game under DesB too.
Matete played a key part in promoted teams from this division the last two seasons. I’d suggest he possibly isn’t terrible and there’s other factors at play.
 
The seasons over, even if by some MIRACLE, we managed to sneak the playoffs and go up, we’d be cannon fodder in the Championship, and would come straight back down, having done more harm than good.

We’re a complete mess on the pitch.

Give the job to Craig Short for the rest of the season, and let him steady the ship, again.

At least we showed spirit, togetherness and camaraderie under Short, and we could at least salvage a bit of positivity going into the summer, ready for a new manager, back room team, and a new squad.

But Des needs to go now, he’s an amateur apprentice, at best.
Give the job to Craig short? You mean the same Craig short who was here under Robinson? The same Craig short all the players are mates with? Whole staff needs gutting. Des isn’t good enough currently but he’s brought in next to no one who can support him. Compare that to the backroom team manning had, Des has been left with Robinson’s rejects and none of his own people.
 
Matete played a key part in promoted teams from this division the last two seasons. I’d suggest he possibly isn’t terrible and there’s other factors at play.
I’d suggest he can’t be bothered, he doesn’t even look interested in the interviews I’ve seen
 
And this is the truth of it all, sadly. So long as the club has a bean counter as CEO and a more or less absent board, footballing decision making of this magnitude will get postponed. We saw it with Robinson. The mere thought of how the balance sheet will look after sacking one manager and attracting the services of another will have twitchy bottoms running for cover.
The only hope is that the marketing side show some disquiet at dropping attendances and slow season ticket sales. The latter, of course, won't happen until it's clear we won't get promoted (don't laugh, they're all still buttocks clenched that it will save their reputations) Once mathmatically impossible, the penny will drop, literally, and pricing next season will look a lot less attractive.
Director of Football.
 
What is he having to deal with? Gets well paid, a decent squad of players, money spent in January, his own analyst, a brilliant training facility.

The assistant situation, yep, that’s s**t. Does it justify sending players out with terrible tactical plans? I don’t think so.
How about the coaching staff beneath that? All here and remnants of robbo’s reign. Absolute hangers on, Short & the like. Players all too comfortable with all of them & know they can get away with it as the coaching staff have favourites. The whole squad needs gutting virtually, we get that chance in the summer with a fair few players, but so does the coaching staff, it’s stale, old and full of people who are there to just collect a wage and not take any responsibility.
 
Ask the club and the same response comes back, "we don't need one". Blinkered, and dare I say, arrogant?
Well having seen Tim Williams & his work so far I’d say being arrogant is one of his top qualities. All good football clubs have one or something similar. The players on the recruitment list in January were all manning signings that were agreed while he was here, Goodwin included. We didn’t change tack in January & give Buckingham free rein. We had already decided who we wanted, regardless of whether they suited what Des wanted or if in fact he wanted them at all
 
I think you’re wrong in this, Danny. The £6m per season they’re ploughing in to keep us afloat and a budget far in excess of our natural revenues suggests to me that they’re determined to get promoted as soon as they can. If anything, Championship level football would only enhance the case for the new stadium.

If they were content at L1, they really could save themselves bundles of cash to maintain the status quo.
Or maybe they’ve just got the wrong people spending it.
 
Ideal time for the club to carry out some real research into the position of Head Coach. Approach the best, get an idea of what they will want/need in terms of staff and get things ready for the season end. Have a plan ready. Clearly we are not going up, or down so make a list. Look at contracts. Certainly, regardless of league position, some of the playing staff are surplus to requirements. Some are out of contract come the summer so not even bother with negotiations unless they are really showing that they want to perform. Time to be seen to be reacting. Time for consequences.
I just don't believe that any of the owners are happy throwing money at the club without checks and measures.
 
Ask the club and the same response comes back, "we don't need one". Blinkered, and dare I say, arrogant?
Peterborough United have proven how effective and essential the position has been - they've probably made £50m in 10 years with their transfer model and experienced promotions to the Championship whilst retaining a strong squad. Barry Fry and his associates have done a remarkable job over the years and it has eased the burdens placed on the manager(s)

The fact we aren't replicating this especially when we've experienced some recent success with it implemented in a watered-down way is just plain naïve and a damning testament to the running and vision of the club from a footballing basis. We now find ourselves with a big wage bill, very limited assets and probably needing to break the bank again in the summer to rebuild.

If you have a first team coach running the show then a DoF is almost a necessity.
 
As much as we all want Des to succeed the team is simply not performing to level it should be with the players available. The result and performance at Bolton wasn’t so much a wake up call, (we’ve already had that) but more a hammer blow to supporters belief and confidence that Des can turn things around. I can’t see a big upturn in performances and results from now until the end of the season.

I genuinely believe the shambles around the appointment of an assistant manager and/or the lack of a Director of Football type figure has made Des’ job harder than it should have been, especially coming from overseas and relatively inexperienced in the EFL, but it’s a result business and we’re simply not winning enough games of football.

Players lose form, players lose confidence, players play with injuries.
But professional players not putting the required effort in simply isn’t acceptable . If those rumours are true then that’s a real concern, and the next few matches will show and tell us a lot.

In my opinion and I suspect the majority of the fanbase, the playoffs are gone. We’re heading for mid table mediocrity.

I wish Des well because he seems like a decent fella, however it feels a long way back from here for him.

We saw with the Robinson saga that the board were very reluctant to make a change despite everything pointing to a change being needed quickly and decisively. It took several months. They don’t listen, or at least they only listen to want they want to hear. If they’re true to form Des will be allowed to struggle on, and I think it will be a struggle for him, and Williams will try avoid any flack.
 
Ideal time for the club to carry out some real research into the position of Head Coach. Approach the best, get an idea of what they will want/need in terms of staff and get things ready for the season end. Have a plan ready. Clearly we are not going up, or down so make a list. Look at contracts. Certainly, regardless of league position, some of the playing staff are surplus to requirements. Some are out of contract come the summer so not even bother with negotiations unless they are really showing that they want to perform. Time to be seen to be reacting. Time for consequences.
I just don't believe that any of the owners are happy throwing money at the club without checks and measures.
All very good, but will Timmy's spreadsheet allow it :unsure:

And more worrying, where will they end up doing this "research"?
 
Peterborough United have proven how effective and essential the position has been - they've probably made £50m in 10 years with their transfer model and experienced promotions to the Championship whilst retaining a strong squad. Barry Fry and his associates have done a remarkable job over the years and it has eased the burdens placed on the manager(s)

What?!
 
Whilst a lot of focus is on DesB spare a thought for our recruitment in January, what a bloody mess that has become!

Goodwin nearly £500k wasted on a striker who cant get in a side without an actual striker.
Jay Matete absolute waste of space, a few terrible performances he’s either injured or couldn’t care.
Comming, makes some good saves but seems to let in goals which you’d think he’d save and has more howlers than he should.
Burey, who knows looked good for a couple of games never to be seen again?
Edwards, good, maybe great but injured.

I would say we need to look at our recruitment team as well as DesB
 
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Are we absolutely sure that Des’ preferred choice of assistant didn’t come due to wages?
I'm pretty sure, yes.
Or could it be that he decided he didn’t want to work with Des as he hadn’t persuaded him about his own credentials and ability?
He was recommended by someone he has worked with before who knows Des very well, the manager wasn't an issue with this. Offering him a huge paycut was.

Edit - changed 'payout' to a more accurate 'paycut'
 
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