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Perhaps survival of some clubs especially in div2? Look at the vote in div2 they wanted it!

Newport and Cambridge have already come out and said how good it is...

It shouldn't take a forced salary cap to stop clubs over spending. They should be able to manage not to over spend themselves. It is after all them that has been offering the contracts to players.
 
Newport and Cambridge have already come out and said how good it is...

It shouldn't take a forced salary cap to stop clubs over spending. They should be able to manage not to over spend themselves. It is after all them that has been offering the contracts to players.
A wake up call for clubs that end up lower down the football pyramid than they should be!
 
The PFA challenging the changes means they might not be active yet (according to the PFA certainly) so in theory he could still sign a new contract and his wage against the Cap be limited. He is moving on though imo so only academic.
Agree with this, but don't know if it is up and running, so that means we could still sign someone with no cap in place.
 
This is all getting really complicated. The member clubs had their say and - in my opinion, surprisingly- voted it through and now the PFA have come out against it. So what now? A bigger rift between the clubs and the PFA while the EFL go back behind the parapet? What a mess..

 
Would be beneficial for Sunderland to loan Grigg out if there's a club willing to pay more than the £1300 he's 'costing' them a week.
 
This is all getting really complicated. The member clubs had their say and - in my opinion, surprisingly- voted it through and now the PFA have come out against it. So what now? A bigger rift between the clubs and the PFA while the EFL go back behind the parapet? What a mess..

I don't think consulting with the PFA would have got anywhere?
 
Have to say with the EFL's history I cant see this being properly enforced. Also with any regulations there will likely be work arounds and loopholes. Also with the threat of arbitration from the PFA, which for them is such a key issue, something that will effectively limit the earnings of their players, I can see it being watered down in some regard anyway
 
Have to say with the EFL's history I cant see this being properly enforced. Also with any regulations there will likely be work arounds and loopholes. Also with the threat of arbitration from the PFA, which for them is such a key issue, something that will effectively limit the earnings of their players, I can see it being watered down in some regard anyway
In what way? Do you support it?
 
I don't think consulting with the PFA would have got anywhere?
Possibly true, but its surprising that the EFL didnt have some form of dialogue with them. Its going to have a massive and immediate effect on their members. Theres no denying its going to put players out of work.
 
Possibly true, but its surprising that the EFL didnt have some form of dialogue with them. Its going to have a massive and immediate effect on their members. Theres no denying its going to put players out of work.
Long-term due to the wage cap does that mean less players employed?
 
Can somebody clarify the situation ref the wage cap
If we wanted Browne, Kelly, Grigg, O Donnel etc has the wage cap started now.
If so there are going to be a fair few players in the Championship whose careers are as good as over unless they take a massive wage drop. There must be agents all over the place trying to get a deal done this weekend
 
The gap between caps is so incredibly vast that it means the ones coming down will be the worst of the very, very best. Who are much more likely to be comfortably the best of the worst as a result. It’s too big - it isn’t like now where you can come down and find yourself pitted against equally large clubs who may have a bit to spend, or modest sized clubs with decent budgets as they’ve sold millions of pounds of players and have decided to up a gear. As it stands we would be around a million quid over budget, and we were mid table on spending last season. 2.5m is around what we spent in L2 five years ago, and that’s now the norm. The gap is going to be so big that any team relegated is going to be a heavyweight suddenly fighting a load of bantamweights. All the clubs with 4, 5, 6m budgets won’t be there. Unless they’ve come down already and then they all just bottle neck. I’ve already also gone into how before they come down to begin with Championship (PL2) clubs will have been able to sign and hoard all the players that clubs at our level can no longer afford. Players that would’ve gone to the bigger clubs at this level like Portsmouth or Ipswich, or clubs who are in a position to spend a bit like us and Peterborough, will now be much more inclined to skip us out all together because nobody in this league can pay more than 1500 a week on average, and 2500 a week in the next division is still chicken feed but infinitely more than we can offer.

This, by the way, is before you even consider whether or not a club is as desirable to a potential buyer anymore. Why would you buy a club if you can’t invest to expand the business? To the point that even if the business generates profits without needing a sugar daddy splurging on it all, you aren’t allowed to invest any of it? Why on earth would anybody buy any business if they were told they weren’t allowed to invest in it and were capped to how large it was essentially allowed to be? How is that going to help any club in financial difficulty (nobody is starting from zero - the debt is there already) attract a new buyer, when that buyer is totally hamstrung and is essentially signing up to nothing but existing debt management, with no ability to invest? And then when that club can’t find anyone to take it on because it can’t grow, and it’s fighting against bigger and bigger opponents every year who are pulling further and further away, what happens to them then?

Come on!


To pick up on a specific point: clubs won't be able to hoard players if there's a limit to squad size.

IMO a lot depends on IF the Championship votes, and if so, which way.
 
It shouldn't take a forced salary cap to stop clubs over spending. They should be able to manage not to over spend themselves. It is after all them that has been offering the contracts to players.

They should manage not to over spend. Of course they should. But they don't.

Bury shouldn't have spent about three times what they could afford on a playing squad to get them promoted, because it ended up killing the club.
Notts County shouldn't have......nor should Pompey, nor should Bolton etc. etc.

Given freedom to self regulate, what clubs have shown over and over is that they will put their very existences at risk in the pursuit of the riches of the higher leagues. You look at what some Championship teams are doing now, in terms of their spending vs. revenues, in an attempt to stay competitive in that league, and it's ridiculous (yes, Reading - I'm looking at you).

Whether or not we think that's OK, probably depends on our view of the world........
 
Oxford are pleased to announce the arrival of three exciting new signings. Because of the new developments with the salary cap and limited squad numbers, our much lauded recruitment department have found a solution with the reintroduction of the ‘utility player’. Karl Robinson: These are three really exciting additions. They can all play in a least 6 different positions to a slightly more than average standard. Theyre all also excellent at sweeping the changing room floor and are first at the bar at the local in under a mind-boogling 10 minutes after the final whistle, ordering a round of double- diamond and putting the deposit down for the best darts (not the crap ones with the plastic flights..) See the full interviews at OUFC.com

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They should manage not to over spend. Of course they should. But they don't.

Bury shouldn't have spent about three times what they could afford on a playing squad to get them promoted, because it ended up killing the club.
Notts County shouldn't have......nor should Pompey, nor should Bolton etc. etc.

Given freedom to self regulate, what clubs have shown over and over is that they will put their very existences at risk in the pursuit of the riches of the higher leagues. You look at what some Championship teams are doing now, in terms of their spending vs. revenues, in an attempt to stay competitive in that league, and it's ridiculous (yes, Reading - I'm looking at you).

Whether or not we think that's OK, probably depends on our view of the world........
The EFL caused that over spending by not being stricter with clubs.
If they had just enforced their own rules in the first place then we wouldn’t have this situation.
 
Based on our usual support we are presently in the correct division. Possibly renting the stadium for double what we should be? But without making money on players every year we lose 2.5m a year? So what should we spend on players wages? 20 x £125,000 = 2.5m?
 
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