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Am I right on Tuesday night we ended the games with 7 out of the 10 out players from last season let's look back at last home game Accrington' ran ringsUmmm no. They developed it when we didn't get in the play off positions at the end of KR's last full season, they further enhanced it between October and March of last year, culminating in Robinson getting sacked and then again from November onwards of this year, form has nose dived. What you're saying is a large part of this squad have put together roughly one quarter of a season, wedged in between two or three bad spells.
This isn't a couple of players either that have played a large part in this period, this is:
Eastwood
Brannagan
McGuane
Long
Moore
Thorniley (part of the 21/22 season)
Bodin
Brown
Henry
Murphy
The witch hunt for the manager really needs to be re-directed to a certain extent. People like Brannagan and Moore, two of the players held in highest regard by the supporters are perennial failures at OUFC. We awarded Brannagan with a 12k a week salary, too! Madness.
Man U???
Harsh on Brannagan, Eastwood, Henry and Moore. All excellent footballers who have been great servants for OUFC. England have won nothing so does that make Harry Kane part of a losing culture and a perennial failure.
Utter nonsense. You can't have it both ways.
Not that I believe a word of it anyway.
Good servants, absolutely. Winners at OUFC ? Clearly not.
831 games across these four alone, yet we have seen multiple instances where they have been part of multiple sides now that have seemingly 'downed tools' or completely lost form. Maybe it is a coincidence, but i doubt it. I'd suggest that they are part of a mentality within the groups that they have been a part of here, that is soft and possesses a tendency of not really fancying it when it really matters. Our squads, during the time that these players have been here, more often than not go missing in the biggest games.
Harry Kane is a world class centre forward, who has won.....nothing.
So Kane is a world class perennial failure ?
...but what was the score at half-time in Blackpool? Did Christian Edwards manage to inspire the team to a better performance?It also doesn’t explain why they performed so well against Portsmouth and showed some late battling qualities against Cheltenham only a few days ago.
They looked clueless from the first minute so there may be well issues in understanding the approach DB wants and their abilities to apply it but it seems fanciful that there has been a total breakdown in the relationship between players and manager.
I’ll accept annoyances (being subbed off, dropped from the squad) - that’s part of football. But if the belief in DB has gone already, I suspect moves above the manager would have occurred.
Players have been known to take control and know a fraud when they see one. See Kevin Cullis (ex-U Christian Edwards gets a shout out).
Kevin Cullis - Wikipedia
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...but what was the score at half-time in Blackpool? Did Christian Edwards manage to inspire the team to a better performance?
Love is blind.Am I enjoying the football we are playing under Buckingham? No.
Will I renew for next season even if he is still manager? Yes.
Do I actually understand why? No !!!
Let's hope he does indeed finish in the same bracket as Appleton, that would be a nice promotion on his cv.This is nowhere near as bad as Kemp and Rix.
Under Kemp we were shipping 3, 4 and 5 goals on a regular basis!
Under Rix was awful with the added bonus of getting battered by Yeovil 6-1 and 4-0 at Southend.
Appleton lost 9 of his 1st 22 league games.
Buckingham has lost 8 in his 1st 22 league games.
So while you think he should be put in the same bracket as Kemp and Rix, he could be put in the same bracket as Appleton.
If they don’t want to play, put them on the transfer list immediately and don’t play them. They have a decision, earn your pay or f**k off.
Absolutely spot on, a very analytical explanation.I think this is a symptom of the way Des is trying to play.
Manning was more about getting the full backs high and wide, dragging the opposition midfield out of the middle to create space for Rodrigues (and McGuane, to a certain degree) to operate, and a lot of the emphasis was on them to drive our attacks, with the wide two of the front three playing quite narrow too.
Des on the other hand seems to be more about deploying the full backs in a deeper role, and using the slightly higher central midfielder (or midfielders when we've used a single pivot) to work the ball from the full backs/centre back/pivot to the respective wingers on each side - so Stevens/Moore, Rodrigues and Dale creating those triangles on the right, and Leigh/Brown, Rodrigues and Murphy attempting the same on the left. So perhaps the expectation of Rodrigues now is to do more work across the pitch, rather than up and down it?
I think the areas we try and build our attacks through has changed from central to wide, which somewhat negates the kind of impact we were seeing earlier in the season from RR and McGuane. This might also explain why we so often seem to let teams straight through the middle with such little resistance when we give the ball away trying to work those wide positions.
Not entirely it isn’t. This is the second time a lot of players have seemingly downed tools, regardless of whether it’s malicious or merely a psychological weakness, in 12 months. They’re now developing form for this. I happen to believe it’s the case that too many players have been here too long, and have gone stale after what happened last season.
I understood it with Robinson because of the utter chaos behind the scenes, and the fact that he was burning the entire club down around him, but for any player to do it a second time is unforgivable. Especially when they proved in between that they can actually perform and put a shift in, providing they fancy it.
Buckingham has made mistakes and it’s looking like he’s doomed at this point, but it’s a disgrace that so many players seem to require their bottoms being stroked in exactly the right way, by exactly the right person, in order to perform adequately, let alone well.
The culture is rotten and, frankly, there are a good few players who need showing the door ASAP, because too many of them have proven they’re losers and layabouts.
Even if (when, IMO) Buckingham is sacked ....
It is and its the players job to try a leg and play. Make sure to tell your three mates that won't you.Des is doomed, he’s lost players belief, and some didn’t want him. He’s responsible to get a tune out of them, and he simply can’t!
He’s lost a large chunk of the fanbase, and it only ends one way. Unless we go unbeaten until the end of the season. Which isn’t happening!
This job wasn’t for him. It needed an experienced manager to continue on from Manning, and I’m afraid TW and GF got it wrong.
I simply don't understand the alleged downing of tools. I do get that there could be some psychological damage after the last couple of seasons.Buckingham has made mistakes and it’s looking like he’s doomed at this point, but it’s a disgrace that so many players seem to require their bottoms being stroked in exactly the right way, by exactly the right person, in order to perform adequately, let alone well.
The culture is rotten and, frankly, there are a good few players who need showing the door ASAP, because too many of them have proven they’re losers and layabouts.
If the performances don’t improve, I don’t think he’s going to make it to the final day at Exeter. I certainly think anybody assuming he’s guaranteed the start of next season no matter what couldn’t be further from the truth.With someone with better insights into the club than most, is this being entertained at present?
If I were the club, DB would have until the end of the season and then a major review of performance would be planned ahead of a decision being made. Some semblance of improvement and entertainment would be on my agenda.
Failing that and assuming a mid-table finish sees us end the season, I'd keep an eye out for alternative options.