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Not entirely it isn’t. This is the second time a lot of players have seemingly downed tools, regardless of whether it’s malicious or merely a psychological weakness, in 12 months. They’re now developing form for this. I happen to believe it’s the case that too many players have been here too long, and have gone stale after what happened last season.
I understood it with Robinson because of the utter chaos behind the scenes, and the fact that he was burning the entire club down around him, but for any player to do it a second time is unforgivable. Especially when they proved in between that they can actually perform and put a shift in, providing they fancy it.
Buckingham has made mistakes and it’s looking like he’s doomed at this point, but it’s a disgrace that so many players seem to require their bottoms being stroked in exactly the right way, by exactly the right person, in order to perform adequately, let alone well.
The culture is rotten and, frankly, there are a good few players who need showing the door ASAP, because too many of them have proven they’re losers and layabouts.
Even if (when, IMO) Buckingham is sacked ....
It is and its the players job to try a leg and play. Make sure to tell your three mates that won't you.Des is doomed, he’s lost players belief, and some didn’t want him. He’s responsible to get a tune out of them, and he simply can’t!
He’s lost a large chunk of the fanbase, and it only ends one way. Unless we go unbeaten until the end of the season. Which isn’t happening!
This job wasn’t for him. It needed an experienced manager to continue on from Manning, and I’m afraid TW and GF got it wrong.
I simply don't understand the alleged downing of tools. I do get that there could be some psychological damage after the last couple of seasons.Buckingham has made mistakes and it’s looking like he’s doomed at this point, but it’s a disgrace that so many players seem to require their bottoms being stroked in exactly the right way, by exactly the right person, in order to perform adequately, let alone well.
The culture is rotten and, frankly, there are a good few players who need showing the door ASAP, because too many of them have proven they’re losers and layabouts.
If the performances don’t improve, I don’t think he’s going to make it to the final day at Exeter. I certainly think anybody assuming he’s guaranteed the start of next season no matter what couldn’t be further from the truth.With someone with better insights into the club than most, is this being entertained at present?
If I were the club, DB would have until the end of the season and then a major review of performance would be planned ahead of a decision being made. Some semblance of improvement and entertainment would be on my agenda.
Failing that and assuming a mid-table finish sees us end the season, I'd keep an eye out for alternative options.
Agreed.If the performances don’t improve, I don’t think he’s going to make it to the final day at Exeter. I certainly think anybody assuming he’s guaranteed the start of next season no matter what couldn’t be further from the truth.
So Kane is a world class perennial failure ?
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again hoping that OUFC officials read this forum.
After 20 odd years as a season ticket holder if the current management are in place come the start of next season 5 of us will not be renewing
So are you ITK and close to the football club and the key personnel to make this counter claim?Whether Des stays or goes, whether players have down tools or not, what I would say is that some people need take what some ‘ITK’/‘close to the football club’ posters say with a large pinch of salt. Some are making out they know what is going on behind the scenes when they don’t have a clue, to the point some club officials actually laugh at some of their claims.
I think it would be ridiculous to give a manager who's future is in doubt the summer transfer window and start of the season. He's had more than enough time and a heavily-resourced transfer window (on top of an already massively invested squad) so if he cannot deliver by the end of the season then he has to go as soon as possible to give us time to recruit and be active in what's left of the summer window.If the performances don’t improve, I don’t think he’s going to make it to the final day at Exeter. I certainly think anybody assuming he’s guaranteed the start of next season no matter what couldn’t be further from the truth.
Agreed.
If he’s to go, it has to be before the season end.
This would allow the new man to assess the squad and decide who leaves when contracts end in early June and then move on to the transfer targets .
What happens if certain players don't then like the replacement? I mean I'm sure that Ferguson and Williams will be able to spot the next Skubala a mile off, but just in case they don't know their footballing a**e from their footballing elbow....Exactly what I said the other day on this thread.
There is enough time to conduct a proper process, and like I said before, give the new man at least four games, so he can look at the current squad. Then decide where we need to improve.
Whether Des stays or goes, whether players have down tools or not, what I would say is that some people need take what some ‘ITK’/‘close to the football club’ posters say with a large pinch of salt. Some are making out they know what is going on behind the scenes when they don’t have a clue, to the point some club officials actually laugh at some of their claims.
Behave yourself, Steve.Whether Des stays or goes, whether players have down tools or not, what I would say is that some people need take what some ‘ITK’/‘close to the football club’ posters say with a large pinch of salt. Some are making out they know what is going on behind the scenes when they don’t have a clue, to the point some club officials actually laugh at some of their claims.
So should he have gave up early into his OUFC supporting journey? After 20 years he's seen enough and earned the right to make his judgement, like the majority of us to know Buckingham isn't the answer.Hang on - 20 odd years? So you bought a season ticket during the Atkins era, kept it through Rix, Talbot & Paterson as well as the meandering Lenaghan/Wilder League Two years, but now is when you've decided not to renew?
OK then.