Away Match Day Thread 27/04/2024: L1 - Exeter City v OUFC

[Northstandboy]

Post match pack

Post Match Discussion

Interview - Des Buckingham

Interview - Gary Caldwell

Match Highlights

Match Report

Ref Watch

 

[stokeu]

Some thanks to Ian Atkins who was manager when Des was in the youth squad,no?

 

[Jon-ioualways]

Now that I'm a "Well-known member" perhaps I should be more careful about what I write. I felt a safer keyboard warrior when I was merely "active" and almost no one knew me.

 

[stokeu]

Well what a roller coaster of a week….. so frustrated after those 2 home games, but what a day yesterday as the scores came through. The Mrs doesn’t quite understand the emotion, but there is, of course, only one true love!!!!

 

[Mike_H]

And let's not forget Chris Wilder, who have Sam Long his first start back in 2013.

... and Sam Long's parents for choosing to have children.

 

[Belgium Yellow]

Yep, can we also give some thanks to Pep Clotet for bringing in John Mousinho, and Darren Patterson for starting the ball rolling by bringing in a great bunch o’ lads which has continued to this day.

Moobs alert!

 

[Mike_H]

 

[dickwalton1964]

And while we're on it, let's give praise to Karl Robinson for spotting the potential in Josh Murphy and bringing him to the club. Also for bringing in Elliott Moore who, despite being quiet, has developed into a real leader who gives so much confidence when he plays. And finally Cam. I don't think any other manager than Robinson would have fought so hard to keep him, and I doubt that Cam would have stayed for anyone else.

You'd think that now these players have all been fundamental towards us getting into the playoffs that some might let it go and give Robinson his due.

Well said.

 

[IsleofWightYellow]

Also pretty much ostracised James Henry and had a very difficult relationship with several other players. Sacked coaches without having the decency to tell them directly and walked out without the decency to talk with players or club staff.

And yet, if someone had made those exact claims while Manning was still manager you’d have shouted them down, and defended him to the hilt… and if Des leaves us for someone else at the end of this season you’ll be slagging him off in no time, saying that he lost the dressing room, unfairly ostracised Burey and that Bodin, Rodrigues and McGuane had downed tools

 

[Scotchegg]

And yet, if someone had made those exact claims while Manning was still manager you’d have shouted them down, and defended him to the hilt… and if Des leaves us for someone else at the end of this season you’ll be slagging him off in no time, saying that he lost the dressing room, unfairly ostracised Burey and that Bodin, Rodrigues and McGuane had downed tools

What are you talking about?!

 

[Swaby39]

And while we're on it, let's give praise to Karl Robinson for spotting the potential in Josh Murphy and bringing him to the club. Also for bringing in Elliott Moore who, despite being quiet, has developed into a real leader who gives so much confidence when he plays. And finally Cam. I don't think any other manager than Robinson would have fought so hard to keep him, and I doubt that Cam would have stayed for anyone else.

You'd think that now these players have all been fundamental towards us getting into the playoffs that some might let it go and give Robinson his due.

You say that like it’s hard for me to do - it’s not. I can credit Karl for plenty of great memories supporting the club. Will I thank him for signing Murphy? No. Because nothing about signing him was remotely good for the club until a few months ago. He owes Des a pint for making that look like something positive.

I know you’re precious about Manning and decisions he made which have aged badly having left. I have nothing to disprove what you’re saying about him but I do take it with a pinch of salt because normally the product of toxic behaviour is not good players flocking to join and a team that hardly loses a game, winning most. You only need to look at last season. But it’s just my take and until told otherwise by someone on here that I am more convinced knows different with a balanced view, that won’t change.

You obviously don’t understand why I liked him, but I find it equally odd to totally write him off for praise when he’s accountable for the best part of half the points haul that’s helped us to a 5th placed finish. He’s furthered himself, good for him. Why be so bitter if you believe so strongly that we’ve bettered ourselves as well? Surely we can all fist bump and move on…

 

[werthersoriginal]

You say that like it’s hard for me to do - it’s not. I can credit Karl for plenty of great memories supporting the club. Will I thank him for signing Murphy? No. Because nothing about signing him was remotely good for the club until a few months ago. He owes Des a pint for making that look like something positive.

I know you’re precious about Manning and decisions he made which have aged badly having left. I have nothing to disprove what you’re saying about him but I do take it with a pinch of salt because normally the product of toxic behaviour is not good players flocking to join and a team that hardly loses a game, winning most. You only need to look at last season. But it’s just my take and until told otherwise by someone on here that I am more convinced knows different with a balanced view, that won’t change.

You obviously don’t understand why I liked him, but I find it equally odd to totally write him off for praise when he’s accountable for the best part of half the points haul that’s helped us to a 5th placed finish. He’s furthered himself, good for him. Why be so bitter if you believe so strongly that we’ve bettered ourselves as well? Surely we can all fist bump and move on…

Will you pack it in you two! Clearly Manning should take a lot of credit but he’s gone and hasn’t really improved Bristol City so we don’t need to linger on him. Des has clearly struggled (as he isn’t an android) and it’s good to see him prevail despite most people’s expectations

 

[Scotchegg]

You say that like it’s hard for me to do - it’s not. I can credit Karl for plenty of great memories supporting the club. Will I thank him for signing Murphy? No. Because nothing about signing him was remotely good for the club until a few months ago. He owes Des a pint for making that look like something positive.

I know you’re precious about Manning and decisions he made which have aged badly having left. I have nothing to disprove what you’re saying about him but I do take it with a pinch of salt because normally the product of toxic behaviour is not good players flocking to join and a team that hardly loses a game, winning most. You only need to look at last season. But it’s just my take and until told otherwise by someone on here that I am more convinced knows different with a balanced view, that won’t change.

You obviously don’t understand why I liked him, but I find it equally odd to totally write him off for praise when he’s accountable for the best part of half the points haul that’s helped us to a 5th placed finish. He’s furthered himself, good for him. Why be so bitter if you believe so strongly that we’ve bettered ourselves as well? Surely we can all fist bump and move on…

I've been an Oxford United fan for many years and have seen thousands of players and staff come and go. I never begrudge anyone looking to better themselves or take opportunities elsewhere. It's the reality of being a smaller club that if a player succeeds here that there will be bigger clubs looking to take them on bigger wages.

However, the one thing that should be an absolute given is that people respect the club whilst here and after they leave.

Manning showed no respect to the club, the board, the players or the fans in the way he left and since he left. He does not give a s**t about our club, and I don't give a s**t about him.

I moved on months ago.

Yesterday was about Des Buckingham and the players that have got us this far and no one else - especially the man that almost derailed our season without a care in the world.

 

[Ewes]

I never begrudge anyone looking to better themselves or take opportunities elsewhere. It's the reality of being a smaller club that if a player succeeds here that there will be bigger clubs looking to take them on bigger wages.

Manning showed no respect to the club, the board, the players or the fans in the way he left and since he left. He does not give a s**t about our club, and I don't give a s**t about him.

I haven’t read so much contradictory drivel on here for ages.

LM picked Us up when we were hurtling towards relegation, and left us second in the table and only 3 points behind Pompey after more than a third of this season. He said good things about us when he left but then quickly focused on his new job. He took his trusted assistant with him but didn’t try nabbing any of our players.

He got our confidence back and rebuilt the club to a certain extent.

He’ll have been proud of what he achieved here as he made us hard to beat. In my view he can take more than a third of the credit for what we’ve achieved so far this season. He has moved on and will go down in history as a manager who played a part in our recent success.

 

[Scotchegg]

I haven’t read so much contradictory drivel on here for ages.

LM picked Us up when we were hurtling towards relegation, and left us second in the table and only 3 points behind Pompey after more than a third of this season. He said good things about us when he left but then quickly focused on his new job. He took his trusted assistant with him but didn’t try nabbing any of our players.

He got our confidence back and rebuilt the club to a certain extent.

He’ll have been proud of what he achieved here as he made us hard to beat. In my view he can take more than a third of the credit for what we’ve achieved so far this season. He has moved on and will go down in history as a manager who played a part in our recent success.

Why did you ignore the one paragraph that removes any contradiction?

Seeing as you appear unable to understand my post it is all about respect. People move on, that's fine, but show our club respect. Manning didn't and therefore he won't get any respect from me in return.

 

[Swaby39]

I've been an Oxford United fan for many years and have seen thousands of players and staff come and go. I never begrudge anyone looking to better themselves or take opportunities elsewhere. It's the reality of being a smaller club that if a player succeeds here that there will be bigger clubs looking to take them on bigger wages.

However, the one thing that should be an absolute given is that people respect the club whilst here and after they leave.

Manning showed no respect to the club, the board, the players or the fans in the way he left and since he left. He does not give a s**t about our club, and I don't give a s**t about him.

I moved on months ago.

Yesterday was about Des Buckingham and the players that have got us this far and no one else - especially the man that almost derailed our season without a care in the world.

To me finishing 5th is a credit to all those involved and Manning made no small contribution to that. It baffles me how quickly you’ve just buried and spat on what he did to give your club (you clearly love dearly) the opportunity it has got this season. And all I really ask as a manager is that the club is in a better spot when they leave than what they picked up because it is an inevitable that they will leave one day and rarely is it ever on great terms.

It’s the nature of the business - most industries for that matter - that to move something forward from a poor state, there will be collateral damage and some people either put out or left out. If all Manning did after last season was let the old guard carry on it would have been far more questionable for me.

 

[Nox]

Why did you ignore the one paragraph that removes any contradiction?

Seeing as you appear unable to understand my post it is all about respect. People move on, that's fine, but show our club respect. Manning didn't and therefore he won't get any respect from me in return.

So you don't want to show any respect for a manager who put his all into our Club.
A coach who came in and galvanized a team who looked as if they would fall into the abyss of league 2 football.
Imagine how far that would have set us back as a club.
You don't want to show any respect to a coach,who with collaboration of the recruitment team ,brought players to our Club who have been instrumental in our top six finish.
I include players such as Beadle, Stevens, Leigh, Mceachran, Rodriguez, Mills, Harris.
These were the backbone of the team he built in one window, the team who were second in the league when he left.
I think that deserves a modicum of respect.
As other posters have alluded to,he has to take some credit in what we have achieved this season.

 

[Yellowecky]

Let’s also not forget Liam Manning set us on our way this season, with that terrific start, surely he deserves a bit of credit too?

No.

 

[holdsteady]

... and Sam Long's parents for choosing to have children.

Well we have already thanked Buckingham so it’s just his mum left to thank out of those two.

 

[38yearsofpain]

I've been an Oxford United fan for many years and have seen thousands of players and staff come and go. I never begrudge anyone looking to better themselves or take opportunities elsewhere. It's the reality of being a smaller club that if a player succeeds here that there will be bigger clubs looking to take them on bigger wages.

However, the one thing that should be an absolute given is that people respect the club whilst here and after they leave.

Manning showed no respect to the club, the board, the players or the fans in the way he left and since he left. He does not give a s**t about our club, and I don't give a s**t about him.

I moved on months ago.

Yesterday was about Des Buckingham and the players that have got us this far and no one else - especially the man that almost derailed our season without a care in the world.

Totally accept Exeter was about Des, but without Manning it would have been a non event, a mid table on the beach football match.
Both contributed and both hindered if you look at the season as a whole.
We are in the play offs let's enjoy it. We have regained our pride after last season's debacle.
Des has the opportunity to get us to the promised land this season, we are not the favourites but at least we are in a position to try. The play offs are a lottery and all teams in them this season are fragile. Let's at least compete this time.

 

[Scotchegg]

So you don't want to show any respect for a manager who put his all into our Club.
A coach who came in and galvanized a team who looked as if they would fall into the abyss of league 2 football.
Imagine how far that would have set us back as a club.
You don't want to show any respect to a coach,who with collaboration of the recruitment team ,brought players to our Club who have been instrumental in our top six finish.
I include players such as Beadle, Stevens, Leigh, Mceachran, Rodriguez, Mills, Harris.
These were the backbone of the team he built in one window, the team who were second in the league when he left.
I think that deserves a modicum of respect.
As other posters have alluded to,he has to take some credit in what we have achieved this season.

I respected what Manning achieved in regard to results whilst he was here and have acknowledged that numerous times.

However I do not respect the way he left the club, the way he treated several players and staff during his time with us, or the fact that he has never spoken of the club since he left.

He's moved on, I've moved on, and it's probably best that others move on too.