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Have I said otherwise?
Yes.and reflects badly on the club
Have I said otherwise?
Yes.and reflects badly on the club
No, I am not. Read his post again, His implication is that OxVox is, at least in part, responsible for the club's image.You are suggesting that the clubs Public Relations are not of interest to the supporters? OxVox are the supporters, without whom there is no club.
Thanks for the clarification, as pointed out to me above also.No, I am not. Read his post again, His implication is that OxVox is, at least in part, responsible for the club's image.
Of course, we should care about the club's image, but it is largely the club's responsibility and is certainly not the responsibility of an independent organisation such as OxVox.
Don't bring my mum into this!!
No, I am not. Read his post again, His implication is that OxVox is, at least in part, responsible for the club's image.
Of course, we should care about the club's image, but it is largely the club's responsibility and is certainly not the responsibility of an independent organisation such as OxVox.
But my worry is that there has been a bit of a breakdown and that does no one any favours and reflects badly on the club.
Was referring to the new SLO but you knew that, didn’t you!
I knew who you were referring to, but as with so many of your childish allegations you couldn't be further from the truth. Yes, I know Andy Taylor. He's a good man and a lifelong fan doing a great job at our club. Replacing Kath as SLO will be a tough ask, but one I think he'll do well in.
But I haven't spoken to Andy since before the season started and never about anything to do with transfers, ground developments or anything behind the scenes.
And as I'm sure you'll bring up, I also know the family of Sam Long but even they didn't hear about the new contract until half hour before it was officially announced. And other than general updates on his injury recently, I'm told nothing whatsoever from here either.
I know it frustrates you, but consistently trying to wrongly "out" a source is embarrassing. If it makes you feel better then just assume that I make everything up and ignore me. It'll save you a lot of stress and be less tiresome for everyone else.
Correct. An independent supporters’ group is not supposed to act as a public relations arm of the football club. It’s supposed to scrutinise and hold it to account in a firm but fair manner, and support when warranted on merit. That’s the deal. Its purpose is to report the truth even if it isn’t pretty, and if that’s the case then it’s not for them to apologise on the club’s behalf. Ever. If there’s a pig to be found then people can tart it up themselves. It’s nobody else’s job to help get it into a dress.No, I am not. Read his post again, His implication is that OxVox is, at least in part, responsible for the club's image.
Of course, we should care about the club's image, but it is largely the club's responsibility and is certainly not the responsibility of an independent organisation such as OxVox.
And that's what worries me a bit about the initiative.If people want painted on smiles and jobs for the boys, join the Fan Council.
Quite.And that's what worries me a bit about the initiative.
Who will these people be? How will they get chosen to be on this body? Presumably not elected in any way, so they will be the club's selection from those who apply. And presumably the club can also chose who remains on there as well.
While it is always good for the club to speak to the supporters, anything meaningful has to be done on a 'critical friend' basis. So if the club want to use this Fan Council to get a few ideas etc (perhaps from specific parts of the fan base) then fine - anything more than that and they should be talking to the proper supporters trust. Any 'approval' of club decisions by the Council will mean very very little - so I hope they are not used to give spurious 'fans' backing for things.
I think we will have to wait and see how it pans out.
Maybe Oxvov have just been asked to refrain from comment at present and have agreed to do so. Who knows?
Was referring to the new SLO but you knew that, didn’t you!
Still a good man given the way that he left the prison service, interesting you’d think that way...
Absolutely. The lack of any comment from our main supporters group is frustrating (spoken as another bit of a bastard). And the silence just leads to the sort of bickering apparent on this forum. OK: they probably know more about future developments than us nobodies. OK: they’ve possibly been told not to divulge details. But personally it irritates me that they can think it fine to say absolutely nothing to those of us who support the club (in my case for over 50 years) and worry about its future.One would hope that OxVox do.
It would be quite interesting if OxVox could speak up: have OxVox been approached for comment or support on this dubious initiative? Whether or not they have, what is their position? What is OxVox' position on the club takeover? What do they know and not know? What would they like to know?
I'm asking not because I'm a bit of bastard (I am) but because I pay money to be a member of an independent supporters organisation and I want to know. I'm also concerned that a lot of supporters and potential supporters are bastards as well and are much more likely to join in with a shiny new "support the club whatever" group if OxVox don't start justifying their existence.
Now it not the time to sit on your hands, people.