Not sure if there's a thread on Peter Crouch, who's announced his retirement today, but he is one of the longest players never to have played for us.Anyone got a record of the longest player thread who isn't an oufc player?
Not sure if there's a thread on Peter Crouch, who's announced his retirement today, but he is one of the longest players never to have played for us.Anyone got a record of the longest player thread who isn't an oufc player?
So what you are saying is the EFL is full of hardened criminals, REALLY? I never had James Henry down for armed robbery or Rob Dickie for violent crime.then you would end up with one of the smallest squads in football
So you don’t think the witnesses, who only came forward once it was known there was a reward for supporting the defence, couldn’t have been swayed by the fact they would be paid a large sum of money?You seem confused about the witnesses - they confirmed that what he originally described as her consenting sexual behaviour (before speaking to these witnesses) was consistent with how she had acted with others in similar, consenting situations.
There isn’t any video evidence that she didn’t consent - even she didn’t claim that she didn’t consent. Strange that you are, now, with no reason to that you have put forward?
I haven’t mentioned her past. No-one is saying she deserved any of this. But you still haven’t said what evidence you’ve seen makes you think he’s guilty - or even on what basis of law you think he is - and moral compasses have nothing to do with this. I’m not disputing he’s not a disgusting human being, but that’s not a ‘serious crime’ as you put it
I refer you back to my previous answers and when you find yourself back here, start again.Ched Evans has no criminal record - found not guilty on a retrial and record expunged
Mind you the amount of misses by Obika was criminal. ?So what you are saying is the EFL is full of hardened criminals, REALLY? I never had James Henry down for armed robbery or Rob Dickie for violent crime.
Anyone got a record of the longest player thread who isn't an oufc player?
I wouldn’t tell a 10 year old about sadistic crimes either but they will find out one way or another unfortunately, there are some parents who don’t give a damn about their children if they get in trouble or want to fight maybe smoke and generally rebel and yes there are 10 year olds even going as young as 7/8 and when they get in to there early teens they’re a nightmare, and by the time they are 13 a high percentage will no about sex and and the rights and wrongs. Tragic as it is there are some 13 year olds who won’t give a damn about the rights and wrongs and unfortunately this can lead to rape, then there parents will cry and say they’re only 13 and didn’t know what they were doing or it was the victims fault. If the kids had asked and were told how bad it is and the wrongs of it all.Nonsense.
I’d never want my 10 year old knowing about certain stuff. It’s not for their ears, they don’t have to know and really what is to be gained by telling a 10 year old about rape ? Their time will come. A strong in control parent will deal with it in a simple and straightforward way without going into any detail.
Tail wagging the dog with you by the sound of it.
Personally I wouldn’t watch that mind numbing crap, but I’m fairly sure they’ve not had an episode where both parties didn’t consent? Shagging isn’t illegal you know.and one of the most watched (and most execrable) programmes on tv is Love Island where people are encouraged to shag for the sake of it
The law is an ass.true but Evans was acquitted so the law of this land decided he is innocent
We agree on something at least. ?and I agree Love Island is the worst of the worst
So you don’t think the witnesses, who only came forward once it was known there was a reward for supporting the defence, couldn’t have been swayed by the fact they would be paid a large sum of money?
The case was brought on the basis she alleged she didn’t consent, that is what defines rape.
The facts are he was found guilty and then it was quashed. He won the retrial after his defence paid witnesses. Why didn’t they come forward before there was a reward available?
Personally I wouldn’t let the guy anywhere near my family. That’s why my moral compass matters.
The law is an ass.
If nothing else the level of debate on here shows this case is far from black and white.