Away Match Build Up 10/09/2022: L1 - Shrewsbury Town v OUFC

[Paul Moody's Left Boot]

FA Trophy and Welsh league are still going ahead, which seems a bit disrespectful. I see that European football is still going ahead, which I guess is fair enough, but it would have been better if we could have been consistent in postponements this weekend at least.

 

[Scotchegg]

We have football games cancelled at short notice because a referee deems that the pitch is waterlogged after rolling a ball around!

Individually and collectively the football world will cope with a game being cancelled 24hrs ahead of time due to a once in a lifetime national/global event.

 

[unification]

Disappointing but not unexpected. I think if her passing hadn't been so close to the weekend, things may have been different.

 

[SirAndyOfCrosby]

How do you know that it isn't?

HY hasn't said that it isn't. Eaststanding has said it is - and as such the onus is on him to justify that statement.

If I were to accuse a poster of being, say, a thief, and another poster merely questioned 'how do you know he/she is a thief' would you reply with 'ah, but how do you know he isn't'?

Questioning someone's statement of fact does not inherently imply that you are asserting the opposite to be true. It's a childish line of argument, especially from someone who works in the criminal justice system and should therefore have a better understanding of the concept of the burden of proof.

 

[Joey]

How do you know that it isn't?

Silly argument, he isn't the one claiming to know what the majority think. People usually socialise with like minded individuals so will see things from their point of view. I'd far rather things carried on as normal bar the day of the funeral and most people I know think the same, others who think it's fair everything is cancelled might well associate with others who agree. I'm not a fan of being told I need to mourn, people deal with things differently, there are people on this thread who have gone to games very soon after a close relative has died and that's fine as it's what they want to do.

Also I'm sure I've seen an argument of "just get on with it" in regards to things being cancelled, which is a fantastic contradiction. Unfortunately this thread looks like it could turn nasty but I haven't seen any disrespect to the queen.

 

[Scotchegg]

Any of those saying "correct decision" working tomorrow? Because I still have go do that like a good peasant. That was never getting cancelled but keeping up to date with the football, something to make working on a Saturday a bit easier, is cancelled.

Yes I'm working and was looking forward to listening to the game from my office if everything was quiet elsewhere.

But I'll find something else to occupy 90 minutes of my day now.

 

[JC_Yellow]

Yes I'm working and was looking forward to listening to the game from my office if everything was quiet elsewhere.

But I'll find something else to occupy 90 minutes of my day now.

Good for you. Meanwhile, many freelancers in football have to potentially make do with two weeks without money during a cost-of-living crisis.

 

[Scotchegg]

Silly argument, he isn't the one claiming to know what the majority think. People usually socialise with like minded individuals so will see things from their point of view. I'd far rather things carried on as normal bar the day of the funeral and most people I know think the same, others who think it's fair everything is cancelled might well associate with others who agree. I'm not a fan of being told I need to mourn, people deal with things differently, there are people on this thread who have gone to games very soon after a close relative has died and that's fine as it's what they want to do.

Also I'm sure I've seen an argument of "just get on with it" in regards to things being cancelled, which is a fantastic contradiction. Unfortunately this thread looks like it could turn nasty but I haven't seen any disrespect to the queen.

It's a silly argument on both sides as no one knows how the majority think, and what are the majority? The majority of the nation? Football fans? Those working at games? Players, managers, coaches?

No one knows so stop making assumptions on what others think either way.

 

[battman]

We have football games cancelled at short notice because a referee deems that the pitch is waterlogged after rolling a ball around!

Individually and collectively the football world will cope with a game being cancelled 24hrs ahead of time due to a once in a lifetime national/global event.

It's not whether they will cope, it's whether they should have to cope. Give people the choice to go or not go rather than enforcing the decision onto us.

 

[SirAndyOfCrosby]

It's a silly argument on both sides as no one knows how the majority think, and what are the majority? The majority of the nation? Football fans? Those working at games? Players, managers, coaches?

No one knows so stop making assumptions on what others think either way.

Tangled much? That bit in bold is literally the point that Hampshire was making!

 

[Osei Yaw]

Again, I very much doubt that people are looking at their personal finances or ignoring those of others. This is a once in a lifetime event for millions of people and many of them want to show their respect. Of course there will be those who will disagree, and those who will be affected in different ways by the decision. That is inevitable. But it's far too simplistic and disrespectful to tar those on either side of this as selfish etc.

I never tarred anyone as selfish. I said it's easier to say everything should be called off when you don't have to work this weekend to make ends meet.

You've also reduced what I've said to a binary thing. You can still have football and other events on and be respectful. Similarly, I think it's sad that the Queen has passed after 70 years on the throne AND I also think it's sad that hard-working people are going to lose a lot of money this weekend at a time they can ill afford it.

 

[OX14]

We have football games cancelled at short notice because a referee deems that the pitch is waterlogged after rolling a ball around!

Individually and collectively the football world will cope with a game being cancelled 24hrs ahead of time due to a once in a lifetime national/global event.

You can't really compare an unplayable pitch to the Queen dying at a good age of 96. Already mentioned above fans could of celebrated her life at every game at the weekend. Even kids football has been cancelled at the weekend which I'm sure the Queen herself would not of wanted.

 

[IsleofWightYellow]

How do you know that it isn't?

I don’t. I never said that I did? I merely questioned how he knew that it was the wishes of the ‘vast’ majority. There’s no way he could know that.

I could just as well argue against the decision by saying ‘It’s going against the wishes of the vast majority!’ and it would have just as much of a base in reality.

 

[Concretebob]

Great North Run going ahead to "Bring People Together" this weekend

 

[Horse]

Whatever happened to choice? If I wanted to stay at home and mourn I can. If I want to observe a minute’s silence at a game I can’t.
The games should be played and individual’s left to choose. “Authorities” are too quick to make decisions for us .

 

[bazzer9461]

Great North Run going ahead to "Bring People Together" this weekend

What’s the point in going on about it, the decision has been made it won’t be reversed.

 

[Didcotox]

I think people are forgetting the bigger picture here.

It’s not just a period of mourning, but there are so many different plans in place over the formal period of official mourning.

As an example, Police will be stretched to the absolute nth degree. Policing matches are resource intensive and especially on TVP and the Met, they won’t have the capability to manage everything.

It’s one game, we will cope to allow the nation to show their respects accordingly and as planned according to HRH wishes.

 

[Concretebob]

What’s the point in going on about it, the decision has been made it won’t be reversed.

Because I didn't agree with the decision

 

[Big Ron]

You can't really compare an unplayable pitch to the Queen dying at a good age of 96. Already mentioned above fans could of celebrated her life at every game at the weekend. Even kids football has been cancelled at the weekend which I'm sure the Queen herself would not of wanted.

I like the fact that many on here know what the Queen would and would not have wanted. Even when it comes to royalty, we have people in the know on this forum.

 

[bazzer9461]

Because I didn't agree with the decision

Well I’m sure all decisions made regarding the cancellation of events as a matter of respect, everything was taken into account.