New Stadium Plans - The Triangle - Planning

Yellow River said:
I doubt that anyone who has an interest in the stadium and the future of OUFC will be surprised by the above, appears entirely plausible.

I and my family won’t be voting for either LibDem or Green locally or nationally, we have done in the past so both those parties will be losing votes to either Labour or Conservative.
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I won't vote for the Lib Dems until or ever again unless the stadium gets built. And I'll do my damnedest to encourage others to vote against their candidates as well.
 
Billyox said:
What are the alternatives? Sending emails seems futile; they go unread, and the responses are generic, echoing the same message: "We are collaborating with Oxford United Football Club." Yet, six months have passed, and there's been no progress.
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Still send emails in, numbers will be noticeable and it won't just affect Councillors in the immediate surrounds of the stadium. If your local Councillor is a Lib Dem (mine is in Abingdon), regardless of where they are based other than they are OCC then include them and make it very clear that you will never vote Lib Dem again in any election if their colleagues delay the stadium process. And you'll actively encourage as many as possible to do likewise and even encourage them to vote for their main rival.
 
Scotchegg said:
I agree with holding public servants to account for their actions, but I would advise that we as fans need to act with caution moving forward.

The club have themselves raised concerns about the delays in the Heads of Terms being agrees, and we should hold the councillors to account for not what they agreed to. But a targeted and personal campaign is likely to be counter productive and more damaging to the application.

As frustrating as all of this is, planning applications follow a structured legal process. Planning can not be declined simply because one or two councillors are against it for personal or political reasons. They are expected to follow due process, and any deviation from that on either side could then be taken to a judicial review.

It is outside of our normal remit, but @OUSP will happily forward any guidance from the club on how best to proceed, and Im sure @OxVox are also monitoring the situation closely.

The best thing we can all do is to support the planning application and get others to fo the same. Email the relevant people at OCC to challenge to delays with agreeing HoTs. And contact all candidates in the local elections and coming general election to ensure they are under no doubt how strong the support is for the stadium and the survival of our club.
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I will say though that this delay isn't the planning process, this is about the agreeing the heads of terms for the lease with OCC which is outside of that.
 
OnlyOneUnited said:
Another response from Dan Levy:

- We are in a pre-election period, and the statements I can put out are very constrained under election law. I would love to be able to do so.
- You could ask the club for a copy of the proposed Heads of Terms that they want us to sign. I expect they will say no, but I would not be at all against OUFC fans and other residents seeing them.

As above, it is hard to know if this is top quality deflection from a politician, or if this is genuine. I am aware that pre-election there are rules over what can and can't be said, but I do not think that covers politicians campaigning for/against certain positions. So with my pro-OUFC hat on I would say that if Councillor Levy really cared that much, the Lib Dems would be talking about it in their election material, stating that they are pro-stadium and looking to hold the OUFC ownership to account. The fact they aren't indicates that they are fence-sitting ahead of an election so that they cannot be held directly accountable and so that they can go whichever way the wind blows post election.

As has become a theme though, with better communication from OUFC and by being more transparent with us fans rather than the vague statement released a few weeks ago, we would have more ammunition to hold people like Councillor Levy to account.

@OxVox @Paul P it would be good to know if you have seen the HoT referenced and if so, whether you believe it represents a shifting of the goalposts from OUFC or not? If you have not seen it, is it something you should be asking to see, as suggested by the councillor?
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I would say the club now have to come out & clarify the situation. No point being Cloak & Dagger. We need answers & we need them now. Because otherwise silence is deafening and not at all helpful.
 
Orkney Islands Yellow said:
A painful post to write but here goes.

We've all seen on campaign literature locally that the Greens on many occasions have done deals with the local Lib Dem party i.e not contesting seats against each other and encouraging the electorate to vote for each other to strategically hurt the Conservatives.

Favours are now owed as a result of this and it appears that the Greens are asking the local Lib Dems not to proceed any further and they have seemingly agreed. The Lib Dems locally are no longer a viable independent party able to think for themselves.

Our remaining slim hope is that CDC somehow grant planning permission which forces the hand of OCC but this is unlikely with the Lib Dems and Green likely to become the two biggest parties in CDC after the local elections in May.

As a result of all of the above, it appears to me the stadium project is dead in the water the the future of our club has never been more uncertain.

Talk of political suicide is nonsense, the demographics of Oxfordshire mean football and OUFC can be killed by the councillors with the blessing of the majority which we are not in.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1776159149111357710

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1776159153704083733

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1775983586115494292
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While you’re quite right that it’s likely they’ll become the ‘controlling group’, they’ll be a minority controlling group. They need 25 for outright control, that is simply not going to happen. CDC committee makeup is a reflection on party numbers. They’ll still be outnumbered by Tory and Labour councillors in the planning committee.
 
I’m developing a sense of unease, and have been for a while now regarding the planning situation.

I certainly don’t trust Cllr Middleton or Cllr Miller, but at the same time Tim Williams and Grant Ferguson don’t fill me with much confidence either.

It feels like Niall McWilliams’ local political nouse, attention to detail, and general trustedness is sorely missed.

If this stadium eventually gets the go ahead it will largely be down to the ground work McWilliams put in despite the inadequacies of Williams and Ferguson since.
 
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