EPL FFP (Financial Fair Play)

holdsteady said:
Never going to happen, if the premier league did that then Man City's lawyers get it overturned you are talking a bankrupt premier league, plus it would be dragged out over so many years. The legal representation Man City can afford and the amount of time and money they are willing to put into it to save face is enough to terrify the premier league, how do you beat an oil rich state in the law courts? They are never going to run out of money fighting it.
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And how do you investigate the the fake (sorry, new!) UAE companies constantly appearing to sponsor Man City to the tune of whatever they need it to be, when said companies are based in the state that owns the club? This makes it virtually impossible for lawyers to investigate and prove these companies are false.

One of the new sponsorship partners, to the tune of almost £100m, was a company with no website, no history, no traceable directors and used AI images for the directors listed.

As soon as the PL allowed state owned clubs it was on a hiding to nothing. Newcastle will be the next to use the same loopholes, it's a travesty for English football that they effectively allowed cheating to occur with no legal way of stopping it.
 
WuTang said:
And how do you investigate the the fake (sorry, new!) UAE companies constantly appearing to sponsor Man City to the tune of whatever they need it to be, when said companies are based in the state that owns the club? This makes it virtually impossible for lawyers to investigate and prove these companies are false.

One of the new sponsorship partners, to the tune of almost £100m, was a company with no website, no history, no traceable directors and used AI images for the directors listed.

As soon as the PL allowed state owned clubs it was on a hiding to nothing. Newcastle will be the next to use the same loopholes, it's a travesty for English football that they effectively allowed cheating to occur with no legal way of stopping it.
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It would probably be better to just let them invest the money, at least its honest.
 
Sarge said:
and most will choose to ignore it
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Will depend on whether it actually has teeth.

There's no reason why a league as rich and well resourced as the Premier League couldn't run a proper salary cap system - all of the American sports leagues do (although the baseball one is a bit weird).

At the beginning of the year, you have to present the PL with a summary of your projected income (based on a defensible model centred around the previous year); then you have a flat percentage of that which is your salary cap. Each player you sign, you have to report their salary to the PL.....and once you reach that cap number, you can't sign any more players until someone leaves). And if anyone's caught giving brown envelopes stuffed with cash to new signings, they get thrown out of the league.

It's probably why Arsenal voted for it (I believe they have the biggest Matchday revenues, therefore might expect the highest cap figure) but Man City did not (because they want to spend oil money that their club didn't earn)
 
tonyw said:
Will depend on whether it actually has teeth.

There's no reason why a league as rich and well resourced as the Premier League couldn't run a proper salary cap system - all of the American sports leagues do (although the baseball one is a bit weird).

At the beginning of the year, you have to present the PL with a summary of your projected income (based on a defensible model centred around the previous year); then you have a flat percentage of that which is your salary cap. Each player you sign, you have to report their salary to the PL.....and once you reach that cap number, you can't sign any more players until someone leaves). And if anyone's caught giving brown envelopes stuffed with cash to new signings, they get thrown out of the league.

It's probably why Arsenal voted for it (I believe they have the biggest Matchday revenues, therefore might expect the highest cap figure) but Man City did not (because they want to spend oil money that their club didn't earn)
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It'll just go to an "independent review panel" who will reduce any penalty to something which will amount to nothing more than a slap on the wrist, regardless of actual planned penalty.
 
Sarge said:
and most will choose to ignore it
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It depends on the details - if it is clear and straightforward then it will be hard to. If it is complex and opaque with lots of exceptions that depend on debatable classification (like it is at the moment) then people will work the system - just like the rich do with paying tax.
 
Pgyellow said:
So we're supposed to celebrate Leicester getting promoted while they're under investigation for cheating?
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Its their standard MO............ break the rules to reach the trough then throw the loose change at the fine.

They still have a PL penalty to come from their last meal.....
 
tonyw said:
Will depend on whether it actually has teeth.

There's no reason why a league as rich and well resourced as the Premier League couldn't run a proper salary cap system - all of the American sports leagues do (although the baseball one is a bit weird).

At the beginning of the year, you have to present the PL with a summary of your projected income (based on a defensible model centred around the previous year); then you have a flat percentage of that which is your salary cap. Each player you sign, you have to report their salary to the PL.....and once you reach that cap number, you can't sign any more players until someone leaves). And if anyone's caught giving brown envelopes stuffed with cash to new signings, they get thrown out of the league.

It's probably why Arsenal voted for it (I believe they have the biggest Matchday revenues, therefore might expect the highest cap figure) but Man City did not (because they want to spend oil money that their club didn't earn)
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Isn’t the problem with this, even ignoring the advantages the big London clubs will have due to being able to charge more for tickets, that the teams at the top are there forever? No chance of spending to get to the top. Plus football isn’t a US sport where it is pretty much only played in one country, you are competing with European teams etc.
 
holdsteady said:
that the teams at the top are there forever?
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That is exactly the problem, the big clubs with their big overseas marketing potential and lucrative Champions League money will always have a spending advantage over the rest
 
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