holdsteady
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Longer than one or two games?Fare comment but how long do you give? There are no sentiments in football
Longer than one or two games?Fare comment but how long do you give? There are no sentiments in football
But this is Euro 2020 which predates us being knocked out the nation’s league?
Bazzer you fucked up, let it lieFare comment but how long do you give? There are no sentiments in football
It took until the 80th minute in the 3rd game to show what we know he is capable offLonger than one or two games?
Disagree. Even in the first game Kane was tightly marked, kept the back line busy. A World Class striker does more than just score.It took until the 80th minute in the 3rd game to show what we know he is capable off
It took until the 80th minute in the 3rd game to show what we know he is capable off
But he didn’t do anything until the 80th minute in the Czech game if he was tightly marked and is a world class striker ( which I know he is ) he should have been able to make moves to areas and receive the ball or having the ball and putting it to good use. He just looked to lethargic and that was a view shared by many.Disagree. Even in the first game Kane was tightly marked, kept the back line busy. A World Class striker does more than just score.
The modern game tends to lead more towards midfielders attacking rather than relying on forward/s. As seen with Liverpool, City, etc.
Nope wouldn’t have a rolling strikers if things didn’t improve but if he hadn’t done anything of note in the Czech game and I mean not scoring Or assisting like he did from the 80th minute then questions would have to be asked., but that’s in the past now let’s hope he can continue his form against the semi finalThat’s not that long, if you were a manager you would have rolling strikers when they don’t score for 20 minutes bring another one on. All strikers score in batches then have a few games where they don’t.
We had last season’s top goal scorer in the premier league up front for us, add in his record for club and country over the last 6 years and as long as he is fit its mental to drop him.
Form is temporary, class is permanent.....But he didn’t do anything until the 80th minute in the Czech game if he was tightly marked and is a world class striker ( which I know he is ) he should have been able to make moves to areas and receive the ball or having the ball and putting it to good use. He just looked to lethargic and that was a view shared by many.
But he did really well against the Ukraine and if themat can be replicated against Denmark then we shouldn’t have anything to worry about.
I agree - albeit the Nations league is sort of an International equivalent of the Pappa Johns Trophy
fair comment ..... my comparison (to PJT) was intended as tongue in cheekI'm a fan of a the NL and I think it's a bit of disservice to relegate it to second rate status. Yes, it's in it's infancy and I think the finals could do with a tweak (only four teams, really, UEFA?), but it's replaced awful international friendlies, have introduced a great promotion/relegation aspect and see national teams pitched against equals in competitive fixtures. I think UEFA are onto a winner with it and could expand it into a decent competition without wanting to tread on the feet of the Euros too much. I said in another thread that a 16 team Euros and a 16-team knockout only NL could make for a really neat twin set of competitions for UEFA. Also, treating it as second rate will only come back to haunt England too. They were too arrogant to consider becoming a FIFA member for the World Cups before 1950 and yet they've give a right arm to win one now!
Also, if anything, it's more difficult to win the NL than it is the World Cup. Look at the world rankings.
England's third place in the 2018-19 NL saw them play Spain (#7 in the world) and Croatia (#6) each twice, lose to Netherlands (#15) and beat Switzerland (#9).* So, decent results over some top 10 sides. However, the World Cup run in 2018 however saw them play Tunisia (#21), Panama (#55), Belgium (#3), Colombia (#16), Sweden (#24) and Croatia (#20) (and then Belgium again).** Four opponents ranked 20th or lower.
The World Cup generally lets in a few crumby teams because by it's nature it has to be representative of the world. Teams in CAF or AFC simply won't improve unless they have a few berths to enter the WC and get to play on the world stage. Of the current world rankings, 18 of the top 32 spots are held by UEFA nations so the more UEFA nations you play, generally the competition is harder hence why the Euros and NL are tricky competitions. If England were to go all the way this year, I'd certainly regard it as a bigger achievement than the World Cup (even if the prize overall is smaller).
*World ranking correct as of 5th June 2019 when the NL finals began.
**World rankings correct as of June 2018 when the WC finals began.
fair comment ..... my comparison (to PJT) was intended as tongue in cheek
that said , personally I'd like to see the Home International resurrected in some kind of meaningful format
- say a biannual event ( as in the years between the World cup & Euro finals) perhaps?
I assumed it was. I think some in football already had a downer on it when it’s actually the best idea UEFA have had in years. Other continental football administrations are taking it on now too.
Home nations tournament would be fun. I think football is in a better place now to host those events. The hooliganism aspect has largely gone and the games are played in a better spirit. Playing it year after year may have watered down the intensity of the rivalry too. Fitting it into the calendar may be tricky and the FA probably see fixtures against the bigger sides in Europe as higher priority. Nevertheless, with all the home nations qualifying for major tournaments recently there may be interest at them all having a crack at England again.
But the team would still be made up of English players, Bale may make the benchBritain is Cymru and England, should play as the British Lions. The British flag changed to a composite of the St David's and St George's flag. Scotland is not part of Britain.
But the team would still be made up of English players, Bale may make the bench