Ex Player Alex Rodriguez Gorrin

i thought the squad size cap went with the salary cap (thanks to the PFA legal challenge)
 
Paul Cannell said:
I thought the squad cap stays. Maybe wrong.
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Maybe not EFL site says

"43.9 Squad Lists

43.9.1 Clubs shall be permitted to name up to a maximum number of Players in their Squad
List based on the following provisions:

(a) in respect of Championship Clubs, 25 Players of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player;

(b) in respect of League One and Two Clubs:
(i) in Season 2020/21, 22 Players of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player; and
(ii) in Season 2021/22 and each subsequent Season, 20 Players of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player."

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Paul Cannell said:
I thought the squad cap stays. Maybe wrong.
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I'm not sure but if it is going down to a 20 man squad then we need 20 players of league 1 standard. No passengers like Winnal, Sykes, Hall, Hanson, and the loanees coming in all need to be top class not like Grayson.
 
I can see us going in for McGuane, Barker and Shodipo next season. Something I find interesting with McGuane is his Twitter account. He hasn't tweeted or retweeted or publicly interacted with anything Forest related all season. Most players we get on loan at least occasionally have something related to their parent club. As well as this, he still has him in an OUFC shirt as his profile picture and header, and has tweeted about OUFC games even since going back to Forest. Maybe I'm adding 2 and 2 to make 5 but I wouldn't rule out us making Marcus a permanent addition. (Disclaimer: I have zero inside info and am not in the know so please don't blame me when he turns us down for Hull next year!)

In terms of contracts for next season, I can't see us paying off any contracts, so I think Winnall will be around another year. Personally I'd try to offload him but I doubt anyone will take him. I'd renew Ruffs, Gorrin, Forde and Sykes, and offer reduced terms to Easty and Henry. If they turn down then let them go. For the loanees I'd try get Barker and McGuane back, I'd not be fussed either way with Shodipo, and I'd tell Grayson and Kelly to look elsewhere.
 
Last I heard there was an appeal against the ruling, so it’s technically ‘as is’ until that appeal is settled. The PFA are more concerned about the squad cap element than the salary cap one as it prevents employment, rather than the amount a player can be paid. They’d much rather have players able to sign for a club for less money than not have them able to sign for a club at all. It’s an ongoing mess that was a complete nonsense to begin with.
 
Paul Cannell said:
I'm buggered if I can make sense of it. The EFL statement after the ruling refers to ‘Squad Salary Caps’ but they're not defined.
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The problem with having clear rules is that people can catch you out when you don't follow them.

The EFL aren't as daft as they look.*


*they are
 
RyanioBirdio said:
Last I heard there was an appeal against the ruling, so it’s technically ‘as is’ until that appeal is settled. The PFA are more concerned about the squad cap element than the salary cap one as it prevents employment, rather than the amount a player can be paid. They’d much rather have players able to sign for a club for less money than not have them able to sign for a club at all. It’s an ongoing mess that was a complete nonsense to begin with.
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The squad cap was the most offensive bit for me.


Edit: as long as salary caps had been implemented across the board, which they hadn't of course.
 
The squad cap was always the most ridiculous bit. Sure, limit sides from spending way above their means and putting themselves in financial trouble like Bury did. But why does it matter how a club chooses to spread their budget? If a club wants to pay their star striker 10k a week and then play a lot of youngsters that's their choice - equally if a team wants to sign 35 conference players on small contracts. To limit clubs to 20 (22) senior players, not even enough for two 11s, is putting players at risk both in a sense of not being able to get a contract and in terms of health as players have to play through injuries. To bring in the squad cap in a season where most teams are playing Saturday/Tuesday for most the season is the most idiotic, short sighted move the EFL has ever done. Moore, CamBran and Ruffs have played 19 games in the last 9 weeks, and Atkinson 18. We've not been able to rotate them because we've had to limit the number of players in the squad which leaves zero room for your Charlie Raglan/Aaron Martin/Jamie Mackie types who probably aren't up to a playoff chase in league one but will do a job when required (that and injuries to Long, Henry and Lee likely caused by playing so many games!).
 
God I thought that squad cap had been abolished, hopefully it will after appeal. I’d want to keep Forde and Sykes even if they aren’t first choices, you need hard working versatile guys like that in your squad
 
The last few games have proven the squad to be relative thin, poor and needs a complete over all

So out
Hall
Sykes
Eastwood
Forde
Mous

Loanees not to be considered for a return
Kelly - marmite - I don't like person
Grayson - do I need to comment
Barker wages too high forget
Shrop suspect QPR will retain
McGuane Sorry but injury profile too risky to consider.

Offer for transfer
Henry
Hansen
Winnall

Ruffells
Big question mark - gets roasted by any decent winger - accept that then offer a new 1 year contract

Youth team players
Chambers-Parillon, Lofthouse, Elechi, Jones all capable - keep

Spasov, Lopes
Not seen enough to comment

That will free enough space - can we trust KR to fill ??
 
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