werthersoriginal
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I’m sure you always show respect for others of any colour, creed, gender, or sexuality, and I also try toExactly
I’m sure you always show respect for others of any colour, creed, gender, or sexuality, and I also try toExactly
I’m sure you always show respect for others of any colour, creed, gender, or sexuality, and I also try to
I won't get into another argument, but it is the reaction of others that causes division far more than the actions of the individual.@Scotchegg great post and very valid one too. I fully agree it is a load of B*****s and in this day and age it shouldn't be an issue.
That is the very reason why this frustrates me so much though because actions like this is what creates division rather than solidarity.
Great debate by the way, really enjoyed this so far.
I won't get into another argument, but it is the reaction of others that causes division far more than the actions of the individual.
As for enjoying the debate, wait until we're 50 pages in and someone is blaming Corbyn for it all before you judge!!!
If Corbyn had got in he would of changed allegiance to North Korea.
Should have done so 4 pages agoCan we please delete this thread?
There's showing respect, and there's calling people "vile scumbag"For others.....
Unless they are a vile scumbag...There's showing respect, and there's calling people "vile scumbag"
Pick one of the above.
Sorry, I know this isn't really the point of this thread, but are you seriously making these arguments in good faith? We derive the vast majority of our employment law, including worker standards and protections, from EU Regulations and Directives. These generally provide a floor (rather than a ceiling) of rights. So while e.g. the Working Time Directive dictates workers must have at least 4 weeks (20 days) paid leave a year, many countries exceed that (France, Denmark and Austria, for example, have 25 statutorily-guaranteed days) (the UK has 20). Countries are permitted to exceed these minimum standards. So if the UK does exceed the EU statutory minimum in certain respects, how is that evidence of malign intent by the EU, or of EU legislation somehow shackling the UK?We out-perform the EU on almost all workers standards and the EU is a protection racket for big business. Good try though.
Can we please delete this thread?
Agreed.As long as it remains respectful I’m not sure on the problem.
I hope the board clocked that I nobly let this one go, in the interests of not starting another Brexit argument ...Sorry, I know this isn't really the point of this thread, but are you seriously making these arguments in good faith? We derive the vast majority of our employment law, including worker standards and protections, from EU Regulations and Directives. These generally provide a floor (rather than a ceiling) of rights. So while e.g. the Working Time Directive dictates workers must have at least 4 weeks (20 days) paid leave a year, many countries exceed that (France, Denmark and Austria, for example, have 25 statutorily-guaranteed days) (the UK has 20). Countries are permitted to exceed these minimum standards. So if the UK does exceed the EU statutory minimum in certain respects, how is that evidence of malign intent by the EU, or of EU legislation somehow shackling the UK?
The EU sets certain minimum standards of workers' rights that the UK, upon leaving, would either adhere to (or exceed) anyway (in which case, why leave?), or lower (which is obviously bad for the typical worker - but better for 'big business', I daresay!).
Shot yourself in the foot there, didn't you? McClean seems a bit annoying but I'm not sure what the issue with him is. Poppies aren't compulsory these days though they are a nice gesture.Unless they are a vile scumbag...
Got more self-restraint than me, fair playI hope the board clocked that I nobly let this one go, in the interests of not starting another Brexit argument ...