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Londox said:
It has got to the point now if invited to a restaurant I often say I can't afford it.

In a previous life I earnt quite good money and a lot of my friends still do. Splitting the bill was just the done thing. But I genuinely cannot afford it anymore.

It's a horrible situation because nobody wants to the "that guy" and suggest we all pay for what we got. When I first started having to tighten my purse strings I would deliberately buy the most affordable meals and only have one drink only to end up splitting the bill anyway. It's a really frustrating and demoralising experience to be honest.

Now I'm living life with less money I tend to only go out with close friends who know my situation and are pretty respectful of it.

I wonder if the norm of splitting the bill is a British thing or a worldwide thing?
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I wouldn't put splitting the bill into Room 101, but I'd definitely put 'people who take the p**s when ordering in a group whilst knowing the bill will be split evenly'.
 
SteMerritt said:
I wouldn't put splitting the bill into Room 101, but I'd definitely put 'people who take the p**s when ordering in a group whilst knowing the bill will be split evenly'.
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In my experience, the people taking the p**s don't even feel like they're aware they are taking the p**s.

They just assume everyone in the group is in a similar economic situation and therefore not splitting the bill would be splitting hairs.
 
SteMerritt said:
I wouldn't put splitting the bill into Room 101, but I'd definitely put 'people who take the p**s when ordering in a group whilst knowing the bill will be split evenly'.
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I agree - most people will offer to contribute more though if they've had the sirloin steak and a bottle of bubbles when others have had a burger and a pint.

Most people...............not all!
 
werthersoriginal said:
So I think we can sum up, people get annoyed by:

- selfish people
- new things
- capitalism.

Seems fair enough!
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There is something especially irritating about selfishness.

It's probably the most frustrating quality a person can have.

I find I can forgive people who are vain, or arrogant, or careless or lazy or overly excitable or misery guts... It's the selfish I can't abide.
 
Londox said:
There is something especially irritating about selfishness.

It's probably the most frustrating quality a person can have.

I find I can forgive people who are vain, or arrogant, or careless or lazy or overly excitable or misery guts... It's the selfish I can't abide.
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Ironically it could be argued that a lack of tolerance of others is a bit selfish :)
 
Wallop said:
Ironically it could be argued that a lack of tolerance of others is a bit selfish :)
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I can tolerate all but the selfish!

I find the more selfless a person is often the more I like them.
 
A few football related one:-

People who want to get rid of VAR. Now hear me out on this. Yes, it's not perfect, and I'm sure you can find examples where it has failed. But it is far, far better than it used to be without - offsides being incorrectly given when they were in fact on wide, valid penalty claims not being given because the referee has a bad view of it, penalties being awarded despite the player cheating by taking a dive.

FA Cup semi finals at Wembley - Wembley should be for Cup finals and Internationals only. There's something sacred about Wembley, and FA Cup semi-finals have diminished that.

Football kit prices - £120 to kit your son/daughter out in the latest kit, when it probably cost a tenner to mass-produce in a Bangladesh sweat-shop is a joke.

People who moan about women pundits - Yes some are bad, but some are very good too. If you're going to use Eni Anuko as benchmark, then you need to compare apples with apples - so let's discuss Michael Owen and Carlton Palmer. Just be honest about - you're a dinosaur, who doesn't like change.

Gianni Infantino - This guy was brought in to put a stop to the corruption within FIFA, but he's making Sepp Blatter look like a paragon of virtue!
 
People who stand up for VAR. Nothing good has come of it. Only football can take what has been done successfully in Cricket with the 'Challenge' system, throw out everything learned, and come up with a system that pauses a game for 10 minutes whilst people in a portacabin argue if someone's toenail is offside.
 
boogaloo said:
A few football related one:-

People who want to get rid of VAR. Now hear me out on this. Yes, it's not perfect, and I'm sure you can find examples where it has failed. But it is far, far better than it used to be without - offsides being incorrectly given when they were in fact on wide, valid penalty claims not being given because the referee has a bad view of it, penalties being awarded despite the player cheating by taking a dive.

FA Cup semi finals at Wembley - Wembley should be for Cup finals and Internationals only. There's something sacred about Wembley, and FA Cup semi-finals have diminished that.

Football kit prices - £120 to kit your son/daughter out in the latest kit, when it probably cost a tenner to mass-produce in a Bangladesh sweat-shop is a joke.

People who moan about women pundits - Yes some are bad, but some are very good too. If you're going to use Eni Anuko as benchmark, then you need to compare apples with apples - so let's discuss Michael Owen and Carlton Palmer. Just be honest about - you're a dinosaur, who doesn't like change.

Gianni Infantino - This guy was brought in to put a stop to the corruption within FIFA, but he's making Sepp Blatter look like a paragon of virtue!
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Very easy to say when we get to watch our team in a league that doesn't use VAR. VAR is there only to appeal to the watching viewers on their sofa or in the pub. It is terrible for match going fans.

It has sucked any joy out of goals being scored because you are always waiting to see if VAR will chalk it off.

How many times this season have you been at a game and thought to yourself, I wish we had VAR? I don't think I have ever been at a game and thought it and that is taking into account we haven't had a penalty for 84 games and I still don't want VAR!
 
boogaloo said:
A few football related one:-

People who want to get rid of VAR. Now hear me out on this. Yes, it's not perfect, and I'm sure you can find examples where it has failed. But it is far, far better than it used to be without - offsides being incorrectly given when they were in fact on wide, valid penalty claims not being given because the referee has a bad view of it, penalties being awarded despite the player cheating by taking a dive.

FA Cup semi finals at Wembley - Wembley should be for Cup finals and Internationals only. There's something sacred about Wembley, and FA Cup semi-finals have diminished that.

Football kit prices - £120 to kit your son/daughter out in the latest kit, when it probably cost a tenner to mass-produce in a Bangladesh sweat-shop is a joke.

People who moan about women pundits - Yes some are bad, but some are very good too. If you're going to use Eni Anuko as benchmark, then you need to compare apples with apples - so let's discuss Michael Owen and Carlton Palmer. Just be honest about - you're a dinosaur, who doesn't like change.

Gianni Infantino - This guy was brought in to put a stop to the corruption within FIFA, but he's making Sepp Blatter look like a paragon of virtue!
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SteMerritt said:
People who stand up for VAR. Nothing good has come of it. Only football can take what has been done successfully in Cricket with the 'Challenge' system, throw out everything learned, and come up with a system that pauses a game for 10 minutes whilst people in a portacabin argue if someone's toenail is offside.
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isnt/ wasnt VAR introduced to look at clear and obvious errors in decisions, not that I watch many TV games that implement it, the few I have watched, more VAR decisions, resulting in reversals of on-field officials intial decisions, have , for me, been far, far from clear and obvious.
For a decision to be clear and obvious it should not take 5 minutes, in some cases longer, to overrule theintial decision, a few seconds or therabouts is all that should be required for it to beclear and obvious.

VAR , IMO, is overused and misused
 
VAR is the worst thing ever to happen to football.

And that includes corruption, clubs owned by oil states, ludicrous wages, super agents, high ticket prices, tourists replacing working class fans...
 
SteMerritt said:
The only time VAR could have been useful for us was the play-off final when Owen Dale was wiped out by the Bolton keeper, and amazingly they didn't have a good enough camera angle to see what all of us could see - that it should have been a penalty.
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They were just preparing us for the Championship and the lack of penalty's...
 
SteMerritt said:
The only time VAR could have been useful for us was the play-off final when Owen Dale was wiped out by the Bolton keeper, and amazingly they didn't have a good enough camera angle to see what all of us could see - that it should have been a penalty.
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VAR is trying to make an art a science.

It's the toenail/shoulder offsides that I truly hate. Never what the offside law was intended for. The human eye cannot detect that offside and it's anti-human technology ruining the sport.

I watch almost no premier league football as a direct consequence of VAR.

It's really worrying how robotic, stats driven and boring the sport is becoming. Like the NBA or NFL in America.
There's still the odd great game but they're few and far between.
 
Wow, I knew it would be an unpopular opinion, but didn't think it would be that unpopular! I can see how it disrupts play, and football by it's very nature should be fast and frenetic with the emphasis on momentum and pressure. I guess my personal opinion is I hate to see injustice, and would rather the refs get it right, rather than having to take an educated guess. Being an ex-ref myself, I can honestly say there are cases where you simply haven't got a bleeding clue whether it was foul or not (or offside) for that matter (not that any current ref would every admit that) 🤣 . So any additional support would have been a welcome addition (not that you get that at parks level)! Certainly better than a torrent of abuse! 🤣 Anyhow, I guess we'll have to respectfully agree to disagree on that.
 
boogaloo said:
Wow, I knew it would be an unpopular opinion, but didn't think it would be that unpopular! I can see how it disrupts play, and football by it's very nature should be fast and frenetic with the emphasis on momentum and pressure. I guess my personal opinion is I hate to see injustice, and would rather the refs get it right, rather than having to take an educated guess. Being an ex-ref myself, I can honestly say there are cases where you simply haven't got a bleeding clue whether it was foul or not (or offside) for that matter (not that any current ref would every admit that) 🤣 . So any additional support would have been a welcome addition (not that you get that at parks level)! Certainly better than a torrent of abuse! 🤣 Anyhow, I guess we'll have to respectfully agree to disagree on that.
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Injustice is part of football. Look at the thread about our ongoing wait for a penalty. It’s almost like a badge of honour now!
No ref is perfect but I would prefer a mistake by a human some decision which is decided by technology.

It works it rugby, cricket and tennis, it doesn’t mean it is right for football.
 
Steve Gilbert said:
Injustice is part of football. Look at the thread about our ongoing wait for a penalty. It’s almost like a badge of honour now!
No ref is perfect but I would prefer a mistake by a human some decision which is decided by technology.

It works it rugby, cricket and tennis, it doesn’t mean it is right for football.
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Injustice is part of life and a part of football.

You can't have perfection. Football used to be beautifully imperfect.
 
VAR can Foxtrot Oscar.

The decisions, be they right or wrong, are what make the conversation in the pub after, the stoic idea that it all levels out etc etc.

A 10 minute wait to find out someones bootlace is "offside" kills everything we love about the game, the spontaneity, the moment..... all gone to please an accountant.
 
Londox said:
VAR is trying to make an art a science.

It's the toenail/shoulder offsides that I truly hate. Never what the offside law was intended for. The human eye cannot detect that offside and it's anti-human technology ruining the sport.

I watch almost no premier league football as a direct consequence of VAR.

It's really worrying how robotic, stats driven and boring the sport is becoming. Like the NBA or NFL in America.
There's still the odd great game but they're few and far between.
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The technology isn't accurate enough anyway, because of the amount of time the player's foot will be in contact with the ball when they kick it. It would be better to have thicker lines to introduce a reasonable margin of error (that favours the attacker).
 
Eric Blair said:
I’m enjoying your poetic side.
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Doing my bit to try and prove Brexit voters can be eloquent!

The very concept of VAR just goes against everything I feel football is about. The Premier League does not interest me at all, and if we ever got there, I know I would attend fewer games.
 
People using the words “eatery” or “foodie”.
Those that think sitting their 6 year old kid in the supermarket trolley with an iPad is parenting.
The person in our house that leaves their dirty washing next to the wash basket, their dirty crockery and cups on the kitchen worktop just above the dishwasher and their rubbish on the same worktop but by the bin (I know who you are….)
The “massive Stoke fan” next door but one who has been once this season.
Cheshire East Council.
BBC Breakfast, everything about it, the presenters, the set, the “let’s read a sentence each in turn” nonsense, treating viewers as if they are 6 years old and being a de facto shop window for some uninteresting person’s new book, tv series, movie or farewell tour.
Calling a film a movie.
Saying “can I get…”, no you f***ing can’t, it will be brought to you, you aren’t a dog chasing a stick.
The Masked Singer, God help us.
 
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