4.30pm kick off
heres hoping its a 90 min plus performance from the Lionesses
heres hoping its a 90 min plus performance from the Lionesses
WWC 19 England V Cameroon 23/6/19
- Thread starter Sarge
- Start date
Manorlounger
Level: Les Phillips
(224 Apps, 15 Gls)
Kick off 17:30 local time (Spain) and the flat we have rented has got a satellite tv set up. Basic minimum channels but as the game is on BBC1 we shall be able to watch before heading out for dinner. Bottle of red (cheap as chips here!) and a few tapas all ready. The entertainment thereafter is a bit more limited. The old ladies coming out of the church opposite the restaurant and then sitting on the benches around the square catching flies. . . . think about it, you'll get it eventually!
Come on you Lionesses!!
Come on you Lionesses!!
Oldham
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
Manorlounger
Level: Les Phillips
(224 Apps, 15 Gls)
You got it!
C'mon you Lionesses, maul them Cameroon lions
Ruddy love an indirect free kick. You don’t see them all that much anymore.
Imo Cameroon should be down to 9 ....that early assualt shouldve been a red card not yellow ....and after that backpass Cameroon number 5 (?) spat on the closest lioness' arm ...in full view of the referee and tv cameras too. Not a red card? Hmmm .....put the goal away well .... Cameroon are very quick ...and a bit wild n wayward in challenges too
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Foley
Level: Colin Harrington
(260 Apps, 30 Gls)
Englands passing at times has been very poor.
Giving the ball away time and time again.
Looks like that should be a second though ....
Giving the ball away time and time again.
Looks like that should be a second though ....
Quite right too ....White was never offside for the 2nd goal....yet the ref ruled the goal out intially get in there
What are the Cameroon players complaining about???
Poor refereeing now ....few yellow cards need awarding to Cameroon players
What are the Cameroon players complaining about???
Poor refereeing now ....few yellow cards need awarding to Cameroon players
Manorlounger
Level: Les Phillips
(224 Apps, 15 Gls)
2nd half will see some niggling from the Cameroons. Not very pleasant the way they have carried on.
bazzer9461
Level: Joey Beauchamp
(428 Apps, 79 Gls)
- Year of First Game
- 1968
Just turned it on god them Cameroonies are dirty
The scenes are extraordinary here.
VAR is stemming this, I’m afraid. Even if decisions are correct, are these scenes healthy for the game?
VAR is stemming this, I’m afraid. Even if decisions are correct, are these scenes healthy for the game?
You missed the elbow to Parris and the spitting on an eng players arm!
Sloppy n pedestrian defending that 'goal' was!
Blimey! VAR proved the cameroon player crossing it was offside
Referee &officials lost control now.... yellow card all of the disrupting protesting Cameroon players
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Absolutely not ......no nonsense competent referee and assistants would be a better option
Foley
Level: Colin Harrington
(260 Apps, 30 Gls)
The decisions have all been right ( the last one was very marginal).
Cameroon players behaviour has been a disgrace.
A refereeing team not only needs to make the right decisions (preferably without VAR!), their management of the game and players needs to be of a certain level. When both things don't come together, you have a problem.
The refereeing is just not good enough, and adding VAR to the mix just amplifies everything.
One thing I will say, if Bibi Steinhaus was refereeing this one Cameroon would be down to about 7 players already.
The refereeing is just not good enough, and adding VAR to the mix just amplifies everything.
One thing I will say, if Bibi Steinhaus was refereeing this one Cameroon would be down to about 7 players already.
No doubt about that. They could and should have dealt with it all better.
However, where does it stop? If I stopped playing as I heard a whistle and saw an assistant ref’s flag up and the striker put it in the net and for that goal to stand, I’d be furious. In this instance White would have scored come what May but at what stage does it stop?
Some decisions in football are subjective. Even looking at them on screen a few times can lead to a myriad of conclusions. Let’s keep it to the ref’s initial decision and not to the collective ‘wisdom’ of people in a room somewhere.
Marked Ox
Level: Mickey Lewis
(351 Apps, 7 Gls)
The Ref has absolutely bottled the 2nd half, well from the time the Cameroonians had their 1st temper tantrum. She definitely bottled the VAR penalty decision and luckily for her no England player has been hurt in spite of the challenges on them.
It should be the end of her tournament.
Oh and the claims of racism (if that is indeed true) for the VAR decisions that is just fantastic nonsense. It appears when utterly wrong, claim fake racism. Will FIFA actually do something? My guess is no.
It should be the end of her tournament.
Oh and the claims of racism (if that is indeed true) for the VAR decisions that is just fantastic nonsense. It appears when utterly wrong, claim fake racism. Will FIFA actually do something? My guess is no.
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Foley
Level: Colin Harrington
(260 Apps, 30 Gls)
Terrible refereeing.
The Cameroon players have acted like spoilt children. Horrible.
How on earth wasnt that a red card?
The Cameroon players have acted like spoilt children. Horrible.
How on earth wasnt that a red card?
Disgusting tackle (and subsequent abuse) from the Cameroon player in the last minute could put Houghton out of the competition.
That was(should have been) a sraight red for the tackle and a straight red for cameroons ranting n aggressive captain too
Hard fought (literally) win for the lionesses
Hard fought (literally) win for the lionesses
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Yellow Hoods
Level: Chris Maguire
(79 Apps, 22 Gls)
Incredible, almost child-like, indiscipline from Cameroon. Referee needed to be tougher and start issuing cards. Phil Neville did well to stay fairly diplomatic afterwards but did say it 'wasn't football'.
England won't win this competition though based on that performance. Too many mistakes which will be punished by better sides.
England won't win this competition though based on that performance. Too many mistakes which will be punished by better sides.
Need to be more accurate with passing and speed up play a bit to progress further .... must lose the sloppy element that has crept into the lionesses game management in all 4 of thier matches in this world cup
And thats ignoring Cameroons fouling n cheating approach today ...and the woeful match officials inability to keep control
And thats ignoring Cameroons fouling n cheating approach today ...and the woeful match officials inability to keep control
ZeroTheHero
Level: Les Phillips
(224 Apps, 15 Gls)
England need to practice their passing, very poor today.
Cameroon need to look at themselves very hard - shocking indiscipline.
The ref needs to go back to ref school, she had no control and relied on VAR to get anything right.
The VAR operators (if they are going to use the infernal thing) need to be speeded up hugely and used less frequently.
Cameroon need to look at themselves very hard - shocking indiscipline.
The ref needs to go back to ref school, she had no control and relied on VAR to get anything right.
The VAR operators (if they are going to use the infernal thing) need to be speeded up hugely and used less frequently.
Watched game mildly drunk; quite an unedifying spectacle.
Game wasn’t very good either...
Game wasn’t very good either...
Why can't VAR be used like it is in tennis, whereby the side (captain of) on the wrong side of a decision request a review by VAR.
However, they are only allowed two calls a game (unless the call is justified) to prevent continuous requests. If they regularly use two calls a game, incorrectly, then they are reduced to one call a game.
However, they are only allowed two calls a game (unless the call is justified) to prevent continuous requests. If they regularly use two calls a game, incorrectly, then they are reduced to one call a game.
Or like in cricket if your overuled on review you lose your review.... if upheld you retain said review might be a logical and workable option? ....better than the farcical VAR debacle thats blighted this womens world cup finals..... (along with a number of very poor referees and assistants officiating )
Gary Baldi
Level: Paul Moody
(197 Apps, 75 Gls)
It's good to see the women's game can be as controversial as the men's, and the players can hissy fit as badly as their male counterparts (cough, Neymar, cough). And the refs are just as inconsistent. Equality at long last!
ZeroTheHero
Level: Les Phillips
(224 Apps, 15 Gls)
I think if VAR has to be used, then it should indeed be used by a team 'appealing' a decision (as In cricket) with a very limited amount of 'appeals' allowed, of which you lose one if the appeal is unsuccessful. Much better than allowing the ref to just leave everything up to VAR (what is this playing on when a player is clearly offside nonsense all about?).
