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Ex-Player Thread Will Lankshear

dickwalton1964 said:
Great move for him but £14m ! Wow !
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Think it's unsurprising (given how ludicrous the transfer market is generally).

Hit double figures in the Championship as a 20/21 year-old English striker in a struggling team which battled relegation all season.
 
Basham Wonderland said:
£14m for a very good but somewhat unproven out and out striker is crazy - I wonder how teams like Boro can just keep doing this, year after year?

I'm delighted he's getting a decent move and hope he really kicks on next season.
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They've netted a shed load of cash this summer through Hayden Hackney sale (£16.5m rising to £25m) and earning a big sell-on fee for Morgan Rogers' move from Villa to Chelsea (Around £20m).
 
CaptainOx said:
They've netted a shed load of cash this summer through Hayden Hackney sale (£16.5m rising to £25m) and earning a big sell-on fee for Morgan Rogers' move from Villa to Chelsea (Around £20m).
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Wow.

However, they've been doing this sort of stuff for years now, neither dropping nor going up and competing against outrageous costs. Have they just been getting lucky, is their recruitment team one of the best in the country, does their owner have endless pockets, or is it a bit of a mixture of all three?

Same with clubs like Preston and Derby and WBA - some limited fluctuation in pyramid position, no success, but tens of millions available each year to keep it going.
 
tatabanya said:
If he's worth £14m then what's Mills worth?
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Significantly less, because he's currently contracted to a League One club, not a Premier League one. Regardless of what value we fans attribute to the two players, there is a huge chasm between what the two clubs are able to get away with charging.
 
Emilio said:
Significantly less, because he's currently contracted to a League One club, not a Premier League one. Regardless of what value we fans attribute to the two players, there is a huge chasm between what the two clubs are able to get away with charging.
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That's way too thoughtful an answer to a flippant question
 
Emilio said:
I did suggest a couple of months back that it would be good to have even just a 5% future sell-on fee negotiated as part of loan deals, given our contribution to his develop. I got ridiculed for suggesting the idea. An extra £700k wouldn't do us any harm though...
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Good idea in prospect except it would probably need EFL to back it as a uniform thing with the Premier League. Otherwise you’ll just lose out to clubs with less demands - Premier league clubs will have the view it’s a shake down and direct them elsewhere. Bless them.

But since the EFL and national league have been forever barking for more money to come down, this would surely be one way to do it that offers the Prem something in return.

They have it so easy. Farm in 50 youngsters, loan them out, take the spoils and protect themselves with a giant sell on. All giving a fat boost to their PSR standing so they can go and spend £XXm on a foreign player anyway… meanwhile the club most responsible for that fee has nothing but a gaping hole to fill.
 
Emilio said:
I did suggest a couple of months back that it would be good to have even just a 5% future sell-on fee negotiated as part of loan deals, given our contribution to his develop. I got ridiculed for suggesting the idea. An extra £700k wouldn't do us any harm though...
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Led to believe by someone who works for a fellow L1 club that the relevant bodies are looking to change the current process so that loan deal clubs are incorporated into the mix.
 
Emilio said:
I did suggest a couple of months back that it would be good to have even just a 5% future sell-on fee negotiated as part of loan deals, given our contribution to his develop. I got ridiculed for suggesting the idea. An extra £700k wouldn't do us any harm though...
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This does exist already, albeit it’s voluntary and the selling club isn’t bound by any rules. But I do know of a Lge2 club who were repaid the loan fee they’d paid, after a loanee returned to his parent club and was sold on for £millions. Plus the Lge2 club later got a good deal on signing other loanees from the same parent club.

So I’d expect Spuds to be sending something our way, even if it’s only a new loanee at no-cost.
 
MJB said:
Think it's unsurprising (given how ludicrous the transfer market is generally).

Hit double figures in the Championship as a 20/21 year-old English striker in a struggling team which battled relegation all season.
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Also, out and out no 9s are a rare breed now which must add on a bit of a premium. Most seem to be forwards now who can play anywhere across the line whilst not really being a striker as such.
 
Fair play. Boro's main issue last season was chance conversion and lack of a genuine number 9 so they've addressed it - maybe paid a little over the odds but the phrase high ceiling comes to mind with Lankshear. He'll retain some value even if he flops due to his homegrown status and reputation with us. That said, a shame we never really played to this strengths and fired it into his throat on the odd occasion.
 
tatabanya said:
That's way too thoughtful an answer to a flippant question
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You do have to wonder though, what might a championship club pay for him today if he was on loan from Everton rather than contracted to us. There’s no way we get £14m for Lankshear if we’d signed him permanently last summer. I’d bet not even half of that, although Plymouth did just get £4m for Tolaj.
 
Basham Wonderland said:
Wow.

However, they've been doing this sort of stuff for years now, neither dropping nor going up and competing against outrageous costs. Have they just been getting lucky, is their recruitment team one of the best in the country, does their owner have endless pockets, or is it a bit of a mixture of all three?

Same with clubs like Preston and Derby and WBA - some limited fluctuation in pyramid position, no success, but tens of millions available each year to keep it going.
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Boro have an average attendance of over 27,000 and this with associated sponsorship and commercial revenues will be far higher than many clubs. Oh, and they don’t have to pay a rental charge!
 
Ewes said:
This does exist already, albeit it’s voluntary and the selling club isn’t bound by any rules. But I do know of a Lge2 club who were repaid the loan fee they’d paid, after a loanee returned to his parent club and was sold on for £millions. Plus the Lge2 club later got a good deal on signing other loanees from the same parent club.

So I’d expect Spuds to be sending something our way, even if it’s only a new loanee at no-cost.
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If only we could accept free players
 
Good luck to the lad. He fully deserves the chance to play regularly and for a bigger Championship team with higher ambitions.

It's a big price tag, that will no doubt come with high expectations from the Boro fan base, but based on what we saw from Will last season he has exactly the right attitude and mentality to handle the weight of that pressure.
 
Boro local paper

"Boro are understood to be paying an initial fee of £8m, with a further £12m of performance-related add-ons taking the total potential value of the deal to £20m.

As is common practice with most deals nowadays, Spurs are understood to have insisted on a sell-on clause that will see them receive 20 per cent of any fees that Boro receive for Lankshear in the future.

The clubs have also agreed a 'matching rights' clause as part of the deal that means if Boro accept an offer for Lankshear from another club in the future, Spurs will then have the right to match that sum and attempt to re-sign the striker themselves."
 
Gordon said:
Good luck to the lad. He fully deserves the chance to play regularly and for a bigger Championship team with higher ambitions.

It's a big price tag, that will no doubt come with high expectations from the Boro fan base, but based on what we saw from Will last season he has exactly the right attitude and mentality to handle the weight of that pressure.
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Echoed but I can imagine he’s partly pretty disappointed that Spurs have chucked him out like leftovers.

Tore it up for their youth team, got his breakthrough and scored in Europe, went out on quite a risky loan to ensure he played, subsequently excelled and his return for that is being cashed in on.

Granted it’s a good move and Spurs appear to be getting a decent price and he may well be in the premier league in 12 months anyway, but that’s some rough treatment from spurs when we know their agenda is just to free them up to continue their spree.
 
Swaby39 said:
Echoed but I can imagine he’s partly pretty disappointed that Spurs have chucked him out like leftovers.

Tore it up for their youth team, got his breakthrough and scored in Europe, went out on quite a risky loan to ensure he played, subsequently excelled and his return for that is being cashed in on.

Granted it’s a good move and Spurs appear to be getting a decent price and he may well be in the premier league in 12 months anyway, but that’s some rough treatment from spurs when we know their agenda is just to free them up to continue their spree.
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Maybe took umbrage that he wore his Oxford kit during training. :ROFLMAO:
 
CaptainOx said:
Boro local paper

"Boro are understood to be paying an initial fee of £8m, with a further £12m of performance-related add-ons taking the total potential value of the deal to £20m.

As is common practice with most deals nowadays, Spurs are understood to have insisted on a sell-on clause that will see them receive 20 per cent of any fees that Boro receive for Lankshear in the future.

The clubs have also agreed a 'matching rights' clause as part of the deal that means if Boro accept an offer for Lankshear from another club in the future, Spurs will then have the right to match that sum and attempt to re-sign the striker themselves."
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That’s 3 different figures I’ve seen. Sky said 10 and 10. Alisdar Gold who broke the story said 14 and 6, and now this one says 8-12
 
It’s a shame we couldn’t receive a development fee for making him the player he is 😅
 
Really top player, surprised Spurs would let him go. But with the money they're splashing out they probably don't want to develop a young talent. Shame.

Be very interesting what he can do in a team at the top end of the league. All the best to him.
 
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