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Village-Yellow said:
Is that going to be the same inflation rises due to Ukraine war, which Labour blamed Conservatives for ?

Come on. We know how this goes, it’s politics.
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It would be great if you could evidence your claim.

I remember Labour acknowledging the impact the war had on inflation but blaming the Tories for the country's reliance on imported gas and the closure of UK's gas storage facilities in 2017/18 exacerbating the situation, which is why the UK (along with Italy) had the highest peaks in inflation in the Western European country/non former Soviet bloc countries. It's why energy security is a bigger issue now.
 
The Voice Of Reason said:
You could see Iran retaliating against us from miles away.
We should have said no to Trumpy and grown some.

As the Beeb said yesterday we will already have

Iran agents here as sleepers So expect trouble on UK now.

As a top lawyer and former head of prosecution for UK he knows this action is illegal and should respect international law

Starmer is responsible cos he can't say no to his mate trump.

All these foreign engagements ( and I use that word for a reason) never went well for Blair, brown and others and won't now! We are the lap dog of the US and need to go NO!
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That’s a god given
 
West said:
You’re not the voice of reason you’re the voice of stupidity, you must take my last post out, but that’s OK. You English cannot handle the truth and you never will. Your best Prime Minister was Margaret Thatcher. She had more balls than your Prime Minister right now so crawl back under your shell and go to sleep.
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Sorry. Margaret Thatcher was not our best prime minister. One of the reasons we are in a real mess with our utilities is because she sold them off and British Rail for that matter.I actually went to court an maybe would have got a short term jail sentence because I refused to pay the poll tax. She was evil. Those without the means to look after themselves were abandoned.Dont even get me started on the miners. If it
hadn’t been for the Falklands War she would not have got reelected.
 
Basham Wonderland said:
I'm starting to think allowing people to cross the channel unchecked for 10 years was a bad idea...
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But that is still happening, there are still thousands coming across the channel now, maybe Starmer might realise how difficult it is although knowing him and his lot will still blame the tories
 
West said:
You’re not the voice of reason you’re the voice of stupidity, you must take my last post out, but that’s OK. You English cannot handle the truth and you never will. Your best Prime Minister was Margaret Thatcher. She had more balls than your Prime Minister right now so crawl back under your shell and go to sleep.
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You lost me when you mixed your metaphor.
 
bazzer9461 said:
But that is still happening, there are still thousands coming across the channel now, maybe Starmer might realise how difficult it is although knowing him and his lot will still blame the Tories
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Bazz
It isn’t the Tories or Labour who are to blame ,it’s Brexit.
Before Brexit there were a trickle of boat people who were dealt with in the correct way. Those with genuine grievances were allowed to stay. After Brexit that trickle became a flood and our authorities didn’t have the manpower to cope, hence the Tories put them into hotels.
 
QR said:
It would be great if you could evidence your claim.

I remember Labour acknowledging the impact the war had on inflation but blaming the Tories for the country's reliance on imported gas and the closure of UK's gas storage facilities in 2017/18 exacerbating the situation, which is why the UK (along with Italy) had the highest peaks in inflation in the Western European country/non former Soviet bloc countries. It's why energy security is a bigger issue now.
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I probably can't tbf.

The blame game between the parties does seem to get lost in the fog of tedium.
 
Question from the uninitiated, but what is SMHS? Google suggests it could be either Shropshire Mental Health Service or Stafford Manor High School. I don't think it's either of those!
 
boogaloo said:
Question from the uninitiated, but what is SMHS? Google suggests it could be either Shropshire Mental Health Service or Stafford Manor High School. I don't think it's either of those!
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I’ve seen references to this in the past. It might be South Midlands Hit Squad, but I’m not absolutely sure.
 
Basham Wonderland said:
I'm starting to think allowing people to cross the channel unchecked for 10 years was a bad idea...
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It's all Brexits fault mate. Without that we would like totally definitely have a robust immigration system and no illegal immigration.
I also blame the Russians, the Tories and the billionaires for it.
 
West Oxon U’s said:
Well this was both pitiful and cowardly from John Healey yesterday:

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Sick and tired of this. All I see nowadays is people terrified of saying the wrong thing from Trump and Mosad’s perspective.

Trump and Mosad have killed this world. The Bushes started it back then (still along with Mosad). Then along came Blair.

And still, even now, after everything that’s happened, Muslims everywhere (including asylum seekersr trying to get away from this Western-inflicted horror) will get the brunt of this - it’s happening on this thread already - EVEN though a Muslim nation is attacking other Muslim nations, with the express intention of attacking US interests. This should be enough to tell everyone where problem lies.

If I could ask everyone to do one thing today, it’s watch Michael Moore’s Fahrenheit 9/11. At this point, more than at any time, we need to be reminded of why the world is so utterly broken.
 
Peterdev said:
Is that 16 or 17 now? I’m losing count
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When he was asked to assist with the bombing/killing of people he said 'no'. When he was asked to assist with the bombing and destruction of weapons, a completely different question, he said 'yes'.

Now, I don't think Starmer should be getting onto a war with the deranged Trump and genocidal Netanyahu on any level, but I can't see how this is a u-turn.
 
Mateo Corbo's Tackle said:
Sick and tired of this. All I see nowadays is people terrified of saying the wrong thing from Trump and Mosad’s perspective.

Trump and Mosad have killed this world. The Bushes started it back then (still along with Mosad). Then along came Blair.

And still, even now, after everything that’s happened, Muslims everywhere (including asylum seekersr trying to get away from this Western-inflicted horror) will get the brunt of this - it’s happening on this thread already - EVEN though a Muslim nation is attacking other Muslim nations, with the express intention of attacking US interests. This should be enough to tell everyone where problem lies.

If I could ask everyone to do one thing today, it’s watch Michael Moore’s Fahrenheit 9/11. At this point, more than at any time, we need to be reminded of why the world is so utterly broken.
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"Trump and mosad have killed this world"

Radical Islam blameless?
 
Seems crazy we couldn’t stop a single drone hitting our RAF base in Cyprus and apparently we have no defence at all in the UK against an inter ballistic missile strike.
 
Yellowmania said:
Seems crazy we couldn’t stop a single drone hitting our RAF base in Cyprus and apparently we have no defence at all in the UK against an inter ballistic missile strike.
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Key Green Party policies from drugs, Gaza and pay to scrapping nuclear weapons

Green Party leader Zack Polanski described Hannah Spencer's victory in the Gorton and Denton by-election as 'seismic' - here we look at what the Greens believe in
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Well just imagine how bad it would be under those sensible Greens.
 
Londox said:
"Trump and mosad have killed this world"

Radical Islam blameless?
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Not blameless. At all.

“Radical Islamists” make justifications based on out of context excerpts from the Quran. I don’t think Islam should be in the description as a result, however I agree that, even though they are more effect than cause, ISIS (and formerly Al-Qaeda) are complicit in the breakdown of the world order.
 
Mateo Corbo's Tackle said:
Not blameless. At all.

“Radical Islamists” make justifications based on out of context excerpts from the Quran. I don’t think Islam should be in the description as a result, however I agree that, even though they are more effect than cause, ISIS (and formerly Al-Qaeda) are complicit in the breakdown of the world order.
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I appreciate that honesty my friend.

Although I do think Islam should fairly be in the description, if Christians committed atrocities based on an interpretation of the new testament then even though I disagree I can't separate their worldview from being in the context of Christianity.

From what I know about Islam the qu'ran isn't written in chronological order, and the 'naskh' means the newer writings superceed the older writings, but this is down very much to an individual preachers interpretation of the text.
 
Londox said:
I appreciate that honesty my friend.

Although I do think Islam should fairly be in the description, if Christians committed atrocities based on an interpretation of the new testament then even though I disagree I can't separate their worldview from being in the context of Christianity.

From what I know about Islam the qu'ran isn't written in chronological order, and the 'naskh' means the newer writings superceed the older writings, but this is down very much to an individual preachers interpretation of the text.
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Considering that a lot of Trump's overseas agenda is driven by the insane US Christian right, that believes in hastening the apocalypse in order to bring about the 'second coming' (oo-er missus), I think you have to include radical Christianity in your analysis
 
Yellowmania said:
Seems crazy we couldn’t stop a single drone hitting our RAF base in Cyprus and apparently we have no defence at all in the UK against an inter ballistic missile strike.
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We've taken out 2 drones going into Akrotiri.

As an aside a Typhoon shot down a drone going into Qatar (iirc) and another was shot down by a British Counter drone team elsewhere.

I think Ukraine has shown hitting drones isn't straightforward. The Iranians will have developed their drones off of the back of the lessons learnt in Ukraine. The development of drones has been at breakneck speed due to Ukraine.
 
Mateo Corbo's Tackle said:
Not blameless. At all.

“Radical Islamists” make justifications based on out of context excerpts from the Quran. I don’t think Islam should be in the description as a result, however I agree that, even though they are more effect than cause, ISIS (and formerly Al-Qaeda) are complicit in the breakdown of the world order.
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A major driver behind modern day Zionism is Christian Evangelicals in the US, a group that strongly supports and has strong links to the current US administration. It is very hard to separate USA's miltary support of Israel and action against Iran from Christian Zionism, so maybe Christian should be in the words somewhere too.
 
Boris said:
Considering that a lot of Trump's overseas agenda is driven by the insane US Christian right, that believes in hastening the apocalypse in order to bring about the 'second coming' (oo-er missus), I think you have to include radical Christianity in your analysis
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Tying to bring about the "second coming"? Did we learn nothing from The Stone Roses? Some things are better left alone.
 
chuckbert said:
A major driver behind modern day Zionism is Christian Evangelicals in the US, a group that strongly supports and has strong links to the current US administration. It is very hard to separate USA's miltary support of Israel and action against Iran from Christian Zionism, so maybe Christian should be in the words somewhere too.
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Perhaps “‘misrepresenters” would be a more effective and all-inclusive term.
 
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